Gun show in Memphis tomorrow - I'm in the market for a replacement for
my Ruger Convertible Single Six that was stolen a few years ago...

I've been looking at the Heritage, because of the price (I can't justify
the price of a NEW Ruger Single-Six right now, just for a fun plinker),
and I'm considering the Ruger Wrangler - but it doesn't have a Magnum
cylinder option...

I've been looking online, becoming familiar with other brands and options
that are out there, so if I run across something at the show I'll know
a little more about it...



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I've got a Single Six as well as a couple of Heritage Arms Rought Riders.
He Heritage is a good arm for the money. It'll never be confused with a Ruger, but it's decently made and will do the job. I'll tell you this right off, the sights are terrible on them...

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Gun show in Memphis tomorrow - I'm in the market for a replacement for
my Ruger Convertible Single Six that was stolen a few years ago...

I've been looking at the Heritage, because of the price (I can't
justify the price of a NEW Ruger Single-Six right now, just for a fun plinker), and I'm considering the Ruger Wrangler - but it doesn't have
a Magnum cylinder option...

I've been looking online, becoming familiar with other brands and
options that are out there, so if I run across something at the show
I'll know a little more about it...

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Re: .22 SAA
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ALL on Fri Mar 06 2020 01:58 am

Gun show in Memphis tomorrow - I'm in the market for a replacement for
my Ruger Convertible Single Six that was stolen a few years ago...

I've been looking at the Heritage, because of the price (I can't justify
the price of a NEW Ruger Single-Six right now, just for a fun plinker),
and I'm considering the Ruger Wrangler - but it doesn't have a Magnum cylinder option...

I've been looking online, becoming familiar with other brands and options that are out there, so if I run across something at the show I'll know
a little more about it...

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I'm a bit leery onthe quality of heritage revolvers. IRC they're part of the Taurus /Rossi group and I have several friends who have had trouble with Taurus' wheelguns

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WEATHERMAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I've got a Single Six as well as a couple of Heritage Arms Rought
Riders. He Heritage is a good arm for the money. It'll never be
confused with a Ruger, but it's decently made and will do the job.
I'll tell you this right off, the sights are terrible on them...

Well - I ended up NOT going to the show, but I did have to go to Jackson,
so I went to Acadamy Sports, just because I knew they sold guns and I've
never been in there. They had a couple of Heritage and one (Silver)
Ruger Wrangler.

Holding one, and then the other? The Ruger has a better feeling 'grip'
to me than the Heritage. The Rugar is $199 (I've made some calls and
that seems to be the street price in my area) and there's a store in
Dyersburg that has two Heritage in stock for $199 with the magnum
cylinder included.

So - if I wind up buying new, I think I'm going to go with the
Wrangler for now and maybe get a Single Six down the road... I've
already picked out some Imitation Mother of Pearl grips for it -
LOL - and a nice side holster.

One more thing - the Wrangler is ONLY available in the 4-5/8"
barrel length, and I do like the 6" barrel of the Single Six
or the Heritage better, but I think I'll be happier in the
long run with the Wrangler...




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MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I'm a bit leery onthe quality of heritage revolvers. IRC they're part
of the Taurus /Rossi group and I have several friends who have had
trouble with Taurus' wheelguns

I think it's like anything else, you get what you pay for, and if you're
buying a low end plinker, it's never gonna be the quality of a high
end gun.

BUT - that being said - I think there's something to be said for any gun
can be taken care of and have some good use and life!





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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to WEATHERMAN <=-

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WEATHERMAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I've got a Single Six as well as a couple of Heritage Arms Rought
Riders. He Heritage is a good arm for the money. It'll never be
confused with a Ruger, but it's decently made and will do the job.
I'll tell you this right off, the sights are terrible on them...

Well - I ended up NOT going to the show, but I did have to go to
Jackson, so I went to Acadamy Sports, just because I knew they sold
guns and I've never been in there. They had a couple of Heritage and
one (Silver) Ruger Wrangler.

Holding one, and then the other? The Ruger has a better feeling 'grip'
to me than the Heritage. The Rugar is $199 (I've made some calls and
that seems to be the street price in my area) and there's a store in Dyersburg that has two Heritage in stock for $199 with the magnum
cylinder included.

So - if I wind up buying new, I think I'm going to go with the
Wrangler for now and maybe get a Single Six down the road... I've
already picked out some Imitation Mother of Pearl grips for it -
LOL - and a nice side holster.

One more thing - the Wrangler is ONLY available in the 4-5/8"
barrel length, and I do like the 6" barrel of the Single Six
or the Heritage better, but I think I'll be happier in the
long run with the Wrangler...

Have an old model Single Six (three screw model), and I fully agree that the Ruger is better feeling gun. Of course, for the price of one it sure as hell better be. I also have a couple of Rough Riders and for what it's worth, if I'm out in the field and need something for taking care of snakes and critters while I'm mending fences, I'd sure as hell feel a lot better about the Rough Rider falling into the mud and being run over than I would the Single Six!

Cheers!

Weatherman


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Weatherman wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Have an old model Single Six (three screw model), and I fully agree
that the Ruger is better feeling gun. Of course, for the price of one
it sure as hell better be. I also have a couple of Rough Riders and
for what it's worth, if I'm out in the field and need something for
taking care of snakes and critters while I'm mending fences, I'd sure
as hell feel a lot better about the Rough Rider falling into the mud
and being run over than I would the Single Six!

I've got an old Double-Nine that I've had for about 30+ years. I love it. Very accurate and dependable. I use shot shells in it for our Rattlers and it does a great job.


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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MOONDOG on Tue Mar 10 2020 10:14 am

MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I'm a bit leery onthe quality of heritage revolvers. IRC they're part of the Taurus /Rossi group and I have several friends who have had trouble with Taurus' wheelguns

I think it's like anything else, you get what you pay for, and if you're buying a low end plinker, it's never gonna be the quality of a high
end gun.

BUT - that being said - I think there's something to be said for any gun
can be taken care of and have some good use and life!

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Nothing wrong with having recreational "fun" guns. It's when you begin to defensive carry or compete it's better to have a firearm you know you can depend on. A couple of years ago I parted together my first AR-15, and contracted what they call the BRD (black rifle disease.) Due to the
modularity of design and variety of barrel lengths, calibers, and other
items, you end up with the equivalent of a bag full of gold clubs rather than
a single do-everything driver. My first build was a bull barreled beast that was too heavy to use other than take from the trunk to the bench rest, so i
did some research, waited for sales, and made a few good for hunting, competi tion, and defensive carbine roles.

I even got my sister's boyfriend pulled in, and he assembled a really nice precision woodchuck dropper.

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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Thumper to Weatherman on Fri Mar 13 2020 08:23 am

Weatherman wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Have an old model Single Six (three screw model), and I fully agree that the Ruger is better feeling gun. Of course, for the price of one it sure as hell better be. I also have a couple of Rough Riders and for what it's worth, if I'm out in the field and need something for taking care of snakes and critters while I'm mending fences, I'd sure as hell feel a lot better about the Rough Rider falling into the mud and being run over than I would the Single Six!

I've got an old Double-Nine that I've had for about 30+ years. I love it. V accurate and dependable. I use shot shells in it for our Rattlers and it doe a great job.

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I found some shotshells for the .40 S&W ,but haven't fired them yet. CCI
makes a variety of specialty ammo.

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Weatherman wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Have an old model Single Six (three screw model), and I fully agree
that the Ruger is better feeling gun. Of course, for the price of one
it sure as hell better be. I also have a couple of Rough Riders and
for what it's worth, if I'm out in the field and need something for
taking care of snakes and critters while I'm mending fences, I'd sure
as hell feel a lot better about the Rough Rider falling into the mud
and being run over than I would the Single Six!

I've got an old Double-Nine that I've had for about 30+ years. I love
it. Very accurate and dependable. I use shot shells in it for our
Rattlers and it does a great job.

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At the price those things are selling for, I'd miss one of those almost as much as my Single Six! For working around the property, I don't think I could beat the Rough Rider. Of course, Sportsman's Warehouse IS having a sale on the Ruger Wrangler so who knows, maybe I'll be picking up another "working 'round the property" gun...

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WEATHERMAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I've got a Single Six as well as a couple of Heritage Arms Rought
Riders. He Heritage is a good arm for the money. It'll never be
confused with a Ruger, but it's decently made and will do the job.
I'll tell you this right off, the sights are terrible on them...

My father in law gave me his Heritage Rough Rider for a late
birthday present! So instead of buying one at all, I have that
one. LOL

Took it home that day and ran 18 rounds through it. I thought the
sights were fine! That 'rear groove' cut into the top strap was
a new thing for me, but I adopted quickly!

Have an old model Single Six (three screw model), and I fully agree
that the Ruger is better feeling gun. Of course, for the price of one
it sure as hell better be.

LOL - yeah, and that's part of it... I can't justify $500 plus for a
'fun' gun to shoot... Not when I can get a Heritage or a Wrangler
for $199. LOL And now that I have this one, I'm fine to dress it up
with pearl grips and a nice 'yard' holster and if money ever becomes
a non-issue I can get a Single Six again. LOL Or if I find a good one
used or something...

I also have a couple of Rough Riders and
for what it's worth, if I'm out in the field and need something for
taking care of snakes and critters while I'm mending fences, I'd sure
as hell feel a lot better about the Rough Rider falling into the mud
and being run over than I would the Single Six!

LOL - good point! :-)




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WEATHERMAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I've got a Single Six as well as a couple of Heritage Arms Rought
Riders. He Heritage is a good arm for the money. It'll never be
confused with a Ruger, but it's decently made and will do the job.
I'll tell you this right off, the sights are terrible on them...

My father in law gave me his Heritage Rough Rider for a late
birthday present! So instead of buying one at all, I have that
one. LOL

Took it home that day and ran 18 rounds through it. I thought the
sights were fine! That 'rear groove' cut into the top strap was
a new thing for me, but I adopted quickly!

Groove and front blade are too narrow for decent sighting. I've got a Rough Rider and a Single Six (soon to be a Wrangler as well, once it's delivered) and can say that by the sights on the Single Six are vastly superior. Wider front blade, wider groove with enough light to sight easily and accurately. Of course the Single Six was much more expensive. That being said, I like to plink with them both, just that the Rough Rider makes it a little more like work.

Cheers...

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So I finally got my Ruger Wrangler from Sportsman's Warehouse a few days back. Initial impressions are, the burnt bronze finish (or whatever they call it) actually didn't look that bad. The sights are somewhere between my Heritage Arms Rough Rider and my Ruger Single Six in quality and all in all fit and finish isn't all that bad - considering the price. The action felt a little rough and it hung up a few times while cycling the hammer at first, but eventually it smoothed out and while it's not as silky smooth (yet) as my Single Six, it is getting better and I'm sure that as I put some rounds through it it'll "get there."

When all is said and done, I'd have to say that between the Ruger Wrangler at $179 (or so on sale) and the Rough Rider at $129 (or so on sale), the money is better spent on the Wrangler. I'd still drive across the county to get a Rough Rider at that price, but if they were both at the same place at the prices described and if I could only get one, it'd be the Ruger.

Well, thanks for listening...
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When all is said and done, I'd have to say that between the Ruger Wrangler at >$179 (or so on sale) and the Rough Rider at $129 (or so on sale), the money is >better spent on the Wrangler. I'd still drive across the county to get a Rough
Rider at that price, but if they were both at the same place at the prices >described and if I could only get one, it'd be the Ruger.

Thanks for sharing!


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WEATHERMAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Groove and front blade are too narrow for decent sighting. I've got a Rough Rider and a Single Six (soon to be a Wrangler as well, once it's delivered) and can say that by the sights on the Single Six are vastly superior. Wider front blade, wider groove with enough light to sight easily and accurately. Of course the Single Six was much more
expensive. That being said, I like to plink with them both, just that
the Rough Rider makes it a little more like work.

Yeah, I shot another 40 or so rounds through it today, and I'm still having
to get used to it. I'll get there, and would like to get where I can
point shoot it - "cowboy style" - and not actually have to sight down it
like a rifle - that's what my rifle is for. LOL

I'd like to know your opinion on the Wrangler when you get it! I still
may get one down the road to have another one to plink around with. I
like the Cerakote finishes, even though it's not 'authentic' as far
as old west style, and having an option for the shorter barral would
be nice as well...




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WEATHERMAN wrote to ALL <=-

So I finally got my Ruger Wrangler from Sportsman's Warehouse a few
days back. Initial impressions are, the burnt bronze finish (or

Interesting! I didn't intend to buy one, but I was at Rural King
Saturday getting some other stuff and they had the silver and the
black. I walked out of there with the black one. :-)

whatever they call it) actually didn't look that bad. The sights are somewhere between my Heritage Arms Rough Rider and my Ruger Single Six
in quality and all in all fit and finish isn't all that bad -
considering the price. The action felt a little rough and it hung up a few times while cycling the hammer at first, but eventually it smoothed out and while it's not as silky smooth (yet) as my Single Six, it is getting better and I'm sure that as I put some rounds through it it'll "get there."

Mine was very tight - not rought at all, but very tight and super smooth!
Much smoother than my Heritage RR. Also much LOUDER! Man! That first shot sounded like a .22 Magnum! :-)

When all is said and done, I'd have to say that between the Ruger
Wrangler at $179 (or so on sale) and the Rough Rider at $129 (or so on sale), the money is better spent on the Wrangler. I'd still drive
across the county to get a Rough Rider at that price, but if they were both at the same place at the prices described and if I could only get one, it'd be the Ruger.

My RR has the magnum cylinder as well, so that's worth something, and the
blue finish and longer barral is more 'traditional' SAA, but the Ruger is,
IMO, a better overall gun. Maybe not like the Single Six I used to own,
but for $199 (wasn't on sale), a HECK of a deal!!!



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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to WEATHERMAN <=-

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WEATHERMAN wrote to ALL <=-

So I finally got my Ruger Wrangler from Sportsman's Warehouse a few
days back. Initial impressions are, the burnt bronze finish (or

Interesting! I didn't intend to buy one, but I was at Rural King
Saturday getting some other stuff and they had the silver and the
black. I walked out of there with the black one. :-)

I've heard of Rural King, but we don't have any around here. I think the closest we get is Murdoch's. The one here in sell firearms, they're right next door to Sportsmans' Warehouse so that's understandable, but the one in Laramie does. Murdoch's in Laramie is where I've been buying most of my Heritage guns. It's a bit of a guilty pleasure for me, I'll admit. I'm a sucker for cheap guns. Just to prove it, I'll even admit to owning a couple of Hi-Points. Then again, I also have a pair of 1944 vintage M1's (one Garand and one carbine) do I'm not JUST a cheap gun buyer. ;)

I'd actually have preferred the black one, but I had to order online and (believe it or don't) the only one available on the Sportsman's Warehouse website when I ordered was the burnt bronze one.

whatever they call it) actually didn't look that bad. The sights are somewhere between my Heritage Arms Rough Rider and my Ruger Single Six
in quality and all in all fit and finish isn't all that bad -
considering the price. The action felt a little rough and it hung up a few times while cycling the hammer at first, but eventually it smoothed out and while it's not as silky smooth (yet) as my Single Six, it is getting better and I'm sure that as I put some rounds through it it'll "get there."

Mine was very tight - not rought at all, but very tight and super
smooth! Much smoother than my Heritage RR. Also much LOUDER! Man! That first shot sounded like a .22 Magnum! :-)

Mine actually binded up a couple of times, but I only had to cycle the action a few times to get it to be smooth. I always expect a newly machined mechanism to be a little rough at first so I wasn't disappointed at all. Can't expect an arm at THAT price point to be smooth and polished EVERY time!

When all is said and done, I'd have to say that between the Ruger
Wrangler at $179 (or so on sale) and the Rough Rider at $129 (or so on sale), the money is better spent on the Wrangler. I'd still drive
across the county to get a Rough Rider at that price, but if they were both at the same place at the prices described and if I could only get one, it'd be the Ruger.

My RR has the magnum cylinder as well, so that's worth something, and
the blue finish and longer barral is more 'traditional' SAA, but the
Ruger is, IMO, a better overall gun. Maybe not like the Single Six I
used to own, but for $199 (wasn't on sale), a HECK of a deal!!!

I am in 100% agreement with you. I'm tempted to send my Single Six back to be fitted with a magnum cylinder but mine is a three-screw model and all original.
That would result in me receiving an altered firearm (albeit with the original parts as well) and a $100 charge for services rendered. I already have a magnum cylinder for the RR. My Single Six is nickle finished with Mother-Of-Pearl gripes. Four clicks on the hammer and a heavy barrel. She's a damned tack driver for sure. I like them all for different purposes. For just going out into the back yard and plinking the Wrangler is awesome. If I want someone to "ohhh" over a gun, I break out the all original three screw Single Six. And for heading out to the back of the property where a gun might be dropped in the mud and the shit or fall off the ATV.... well that's Rough Rider territory.

Jimmy, if you ever make your way out to Wyoming, look me up. We'll do some shooting together.

Regards,

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Hi-Points. Then again, I also have a pair of 1944 vintage M1's (one Garand an
one carbine) do I'm not JUST a cheap gun buyer. ;)

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Yes.... the M1 is legendary. I have one that I got from the CMP,
it's not an "original" from WW2, but as close as I could get (for
now). It is from that era, although with a new barrel. The
stock and receiver/action are original (Harrington and
Richardson). Also have an orignal bayonet for it. I have fired
it quite a bit, mostly using surplus Greek ammo (HXP) that the CMP
sells. It's a real joy to shoot.

I bet. I'm jealous. My girlfriend is terrified of guns after some bad experiences growing up, so I keep my weapon out of site and maintain it when she's not around, for home defense. I doubt I'll ever need it but I feel more comfortable with it around.

I'd be inclined to get an M1 to actually shoot, so an all original may not be ideal. Those belong in museums, probably. I think a remanufactured M1 that functions well that I can take out in the desert or mountains and shoot beer cans sounds like a blast.

Lot of history there in the 82nd, and very cool that you got to
walk some of those battlefields. Thanks for your service. I'm
retired Navy myself, and had a pretty fair amount of firearm usage
while I was in.

Thanks, likewise.

I'll assume you've watched the mini-series "Band of Brothers"...
which of course is about the 101st, but pretty close to what the
82nd did/does. If you haven't seen it you need to binge watch it
this weekend. Fantastic.

Oh, dude, I watch that series at least once a year :P I've been to the site
of the battle of Brecourt Manor, from the second episode. It's just some
little rinky dink farm. Crazy.

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Here's a kind of bizarre story, not really related, but I suspect folks here may appreciate it. We did a raid in east Baghdad in 2007 and recovered a 1911 with a colt stamp in the side and a serial number. We traced the serial number back to a lieutenant who was killed in action
I think in Italy or North Africa or something in WW2. It's now in the 82nd's museum.

Yes! Cool story!



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MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Agreed! In another post, I mentioned doing a polishing of the internal
parts on my M&P Shield. I don't think it's BAD that I need to do this, because if S&W did it themselves on every gun... Well, I wouldn't have
been able to get it for what I paid for it. :-)

My Performance Center M&P C.O.R.E. shoots fine out of the box.

Oh mine shoots PERFECTLY fine! No problems at all, I just want to learn
more about it and for less than $40 with shipping I'll be able to hand
polish the internals and 'do a trigger job' too. I figure it can't hurt,
and will be fun to do.

Didn't mean to make it sound like it NEEDS it - not at all! :-)




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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MOONDOG on Mon Jun 01 2020 12:34 pm

MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Agreed! In another post, I mentioned doing a polishing of the internal parts on my M&P Shield. I don't think it's BAD that I need to do this, because if S&W did it themselves on every gun... Well, I wouldn't have been able to get it for what I paid for it. :-)

My Performance Center M&P C.O.R.E. shoots fine out of the box.

Oh mine shoots PERFECTLY fine! No problems at all, I just want to learn
more about it and for less than $40 with shipping I'll be able to hand polish the internals and 'do a trigger job' too. I figure it can't hurt,
and will be fun to do.

Didn't mean to make it sound like it NEEDS it - not at all! :-)

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Improvement is a personal preference. Several years ago at an NRAAM I got to speak with the president of Apex triggers, and try out a bunch of varous trigger kits ranign from improved defensive carry to match grade triggers. Some were so new they had no model number, and had been pulled from the CNC machine and placed in his personal carry pistols the night before they went
to the convention. I'd recommend their triggers to anyone with an S&W.

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Improvement is a personal preference. Several years ago at an
NRAAM I got to speak with the president of Apex triggers, and try
out a bunch of varous trigger kits ranign from improved defensive
carry to match grade triggers. Some were so new they had no model
number, and had been pulled from the CNC machine and placed in
his personal carry pistols the night before they went to the
convention. I'd recommend their triggers to anyone with an S&W.

I'll second the nod to Apex. Have one in my carry Shield, and
it's a HUGE improvement over the stock trigger. Did it myself,
quite an easy process.



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MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Didn't mean to make it sound like it NEEDS it - not at all! :-)

Improvement is a personal preference. Several years ago at an NRAAM I
got to speak with the president of Apex triggers, and try out a bunch
of varous trigger kits ranign from improved defensive carry to match
grade triggers. Some were so new they had no model number, and had been pulled from the CNC machine and placed in his personal carry pistols
the night before they went to the convention. I'd recommend their triggers to anyone with an S&W.

Interesting! Will add that to the 'to read about' list!

Thx!




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GAMGEE wrote to MOONDOG <=-

I'll second the nod to Apex. Have one in my carry Shield, and
it's a HUGE improvement over the stock trigger. Did it myself,
quite an easy process.

Awesome - thx for the input!




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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Moondog to Zombie Mambo on Mon May 11 2020 03:14 pm

Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Zombie Mambo to Weatherman on Sun May 10 2020 03:46 pm

You are correct that I do not own a hi point.
However my brother does.
It's junk.
Price alone usually is a great indicator on what you're buying.

I'd carry it as backup if i was hunting, maybe as a finisher.

I would not trust my life with it as my choice for CCW.

But like ANY firearm, I'd rather have one that not have anything.

Thanks,
Zombie Mambo

I think it's a natural response to assume inexpensive means junk, however there's only so much workmanship and material quality put into inexpensive firearms. I'd consider a Hi-Point to be a fun shooter, however I doubt I'd shot a match or depend on one for concealed carry.

Yes, agreed. However I think there are some well made cheapos out there. Kel-Tec for example seems to be affordable, and reliable.

At least my experience with them has been.

In other news, Saturday I got to hold and inspect a WWI Army Issued Colt .45 . It was my Great Uncle's Father (my great grandpa). It was issued to him and he carried it in WWI. I believe they were in service between 1898 and 1940 probably when new style was issued for WWII. Anyways, it is in EXCELLENT condition, heavy as hell, and big. I can't imagine carrying it.

He also had a LLama Arms .380 Micromax, which is a replica of a 1911 model pistol. I was amazed at how well built and comfortable this spanish firearm is. They went belly up in 2000 but still fetch 300+ used.

I love coming across new things and unexpected charms in the firearms world.


Thanks,
Zombie Mambo

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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ZOMBIE MAMBO on Sun May 17 2020 03:39 am

And speaking of cheap guns, any thougts from ya'll on SCCY? I've seen them in the stores and dismissed them as 'cheap' guns, but I've heard advertiseme on podcasts where they talk about the lifetime warrenty - that DOES transfer to anyone else that owns it!

Not that I'm planning to trade my S&W M&P Shield .40 in on one, but it
got me to thinking maybe I've been dismissing them too easily...

I have to admit tho I like the cheap guns AND the nice ones.

I haven't had any experience with SCCY so couldn't comment on that.
Regarding the high point, my brother says it shoots fine. Which to me doesn't carry much weight. :)

I am guessing like my old Lorcin .380 ($89 new) it probably is mechanically sound, a bit heavy, not very asthetic, and gets the job done which is all you really want in something like that.

Basically the cobra .380 i have is in the same category, same price range.
I debated over the 9mm S&W Shield, and the 9mm Nano for my first CCW arm.
I opted for the Ruger LC9 because it was handgun of the year like two years earlier, and i liked its specs. I have a red dot on it, and got the camo NRA edition. It's nice. But honestly i like to carry my Glock .42 (.380) better.


Thanks,
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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Zombie Mambo to Moondog on Tue Jun 16 2020 06:57 pm

He also had a LLama Arms .380 Micromax, which is a replica of a 1911 model pistol.
was amazed at how well built and comfortable this spanish firearm is. They went bel
up in 2000 but still fetch 300+ used.

I have a Llama .38. I got it for 200 EUR and it is quite of a great thing for the
price. It even has the security bar for preventing the gun from going off if dropped,
but no safety, and the way the drum is mounted does not inspire much confidence.

The guy that sold it to me told me: "you are not going to score great points in the
shooting range, but this thing is guaranteed aganist rustlers." gopher://gopher.operationalsecurity.es

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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Zombie Mambo to Moondog on Tue Jun 16 2020 06:57 pm

Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Moondog to Zombie Mambo on Mon May 11 2020 03:14 pm

Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Zombie Mambo to Weatherman on Sun May 10 2020 03:46 pm

You are correct that I do not own a hi point.
However my brother does.
It's junk.
Price alone usually is a great indicator on what you're buying.

I'd carry it as backup if i was hunting, maybe as a finisher.

I would not trust my life with it as my choice for CCW.

But like ANY firearm, I'd rather have one that not have anything.

Thanks,
Zombie Mambo

I think it's a natural response to assume inexpensive means junk, however there's only so much workmanship and material quality put into inexpensiv firearms. I'd consider a Hi-Point to be a fun shooter, however I doubt I shot a match or depend on one for concealed carry.

Yes, agreed. However I think there are some well made cheapos out there. Kel-Tec for example seems to be affordable, and reliable.

At least my experience with them has been.

In other news, Saturday I got to hold and inspect a WWI Army Issued Colt .45 It was my Great Uncle's Father (my great grandpa). It was issued to him and carried it in WWI. I believe they were in service between 1898 and 1940 probably when new style was issued for WWII. Anyways, it is in EXCELLENT condition, heavy as hell, and big. I can't imagine carrying it.

He also had a LLama Arms .380 Micromax, which is a replica of a 1911 model pistol. I was amazed at how well built and comfortable this spanish firearm They went belly up in 2000 but still fetch 300+ used.

I love coming across new things and unexpected charms in the firearms world.

Thanks,
Zombie Mambo

Wow. Llama is a name I haven't heard in awhile. I recall seeing them in magazines back in the 1980's and 90's

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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Zombie Mambo to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Jun 16 2020 07:02 pm

Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ZOMBIE MAMBO on Sun May 17 2020 03:39 am

And speaking of cheap guns, any thougts from ya'll on SCCY? I've seen the in the stores and dismissed them as 'cheap' guns, but I've heard advertis on podcasts where they talk about the lifetime warrenty - that DOES trans to anyone else that owns it!

Not that I'm planning to trade my S&W M&P Shield .40 in on one, but it got me to thinking maybe I've been dismissing them too easily...

I have to admit tho I like the cheap guns AND the nice ones.

I haven't had any experience with SCCY so couldn't comment on that. Regarding the high point, my brother says it shoots fine. Which to me doesn' carry much weight. :)

I am guessing like my old Lorcin .380 ($89 new) it probably is mechanically sound, a bit heavy, not very asthetic, and gets the job done which is all yo really want in something like that.

Basically the cobra .380 i have is in the same category, same price range.
I debated over the 9mm S&W Shield, and the 9mm Nano for my first CCW arm.
I opted for the Ruger LC9 because it was handgun of the year like two years earlier, and i liked its specs. I have a red dot on it, and got the camo NRA edition. It's nice. But honestly i like to carry my Glock .42 (.380) better.

Thanks,
Zombie Mambo

The Nano is very bare bones in design. What freaked me out was it didn't have
a lever to lock the slide back. SCCY's have a good warranty and customer service. I think I mentioned before where a friend took his with him to Florida, and was passing by their company HQ. While they worked on his
pistol, he got a tour of the plant.


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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Arelor to Zombie Mambo on Wed Jun 17 2020 08:41 am

I have a Llama .38. I got it for 200 EUR and it is quite of a great thing fo price. It even has the security bar for preventing the gun from going off if but no safety, and the way the drum is mounted does not inspire much confide

The guy that sold it to me told me: "you are not going to score great points shooting range, but this thing is guaranteed aganist rustlers."

The .380 which is a replica of the 1911 is really nice. I couldn't speak for your .38 but i would vouch for the micromax .380 any day. To me, it is akin to the quality of a Kel-Tec. Economy priced, but with quality.


Thanks,
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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Moondog to Zombie Mambo on Wed Jun 17 2020 12:24 pm

The Nano is very bare bones in design. What freaked me out was it didn't hav a lever to lock the slide back. SCCY's have a good warranty and customer service. I think I mentioned before where a friend took his with him to Florida, and was passing by their company HQ. While they worked on his pistol, he got a tour of the plant.

I don't recall that, but that is cool they gave him a tour.
I will tell you, if you're not a conceal carry purist (0 safeties) and want some common sense saftey, its hard to beat the ruger lc9.

Look it up, its a great 1st time conceal weapon with safety features that make the weary confident.


Thanks,
Zombie Mambo

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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Zombie Mambo to Moondog on Wed Jun 17 2020 08:54 pm

Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Moondog to Zombie Mambo on Wed Jun 17 2020 12:24 pm

The Nano is very bare bones in design. What freaked me out was it didn't a lever to lock the slide back. SCCY's have a good warranty and customer service. I think I mentioned before where a friend took his with him to Florida, and was passing by their company HQ. While they worked on his pistol, he got a tour of the plant.

I don't recall that, but that is cool they gave him a tour.
I will tell you, if you're not a conceal carry purist (0 safeties) and want some common sense saftey, its hard to beat the ruger lc9.

Look it up, its a great 1st time conceal weapon with safety features that ma the weary confident.

Thanks,
Zombie Mambo

A buddy has an lc9. Nice pistol. If you ever have a chance to handle one,
the HK P7 is a cool pistol. It's an older model from the 70's and 80's, but
it has a grip cocking safety on the front of the grip instead of the back of the grip. Bad thing about handling a gun like it is you'd want to buy one. I 've seen them run as high as $3600usd for certain models. I know a police oficer who has several in his collection, and he bought them years ago when
the market for them wasn't so salty.

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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Moondog to Zombie Mambo on Sun Jun 21 2020 11:11 am

Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Zombie Mambo to Moondog on Wed Jun 17 2020 08:54 pm

Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Moondog to Zombie Mambo on Wed Jun 17 2020 12:24 pm

The Nano is very bare bones in design. What freaked me out was it didn a lever to lock the slide back. SCCY's have a good warranty and custo service. I think I mentioned before where a friend took his with him Florida, and was passing by their company HQ. While they worked on hi pistol, he got a tour of the plant.

I don't recall that, but that is cool they gave him a tour.
I will tell you, if you're not a conceal carry purist (0 safeties) and wa some common sense saftey, its hard to beat the ruger lc9.

Look it up, its a great 1st time conceal weapon with safety features that the weary confident.

Thanks,
Zombie Mambo

A buddy has an lc9. Nice pistol. If you ever have a chance to handle one, the HK P7 is a cool pistol. It's an older model from the 70's and 80's, but it has a grip cocking safety on the front of the grip instead of the back of the grip. Bad thing about handling a gun like it is you'd want to buy one. 've seen them run as high as $3600usd for certain models. I know a police oficer who has several in his collection, and he bought them years ago when the market for them wasn't so salty.

Never handled an HK of any style. My buddy had an HK assault rifle, I can't remember the model. Very lightweight. It was cool but he "downsized" to a 357 magnum.


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And speaking of cheap guns, any thougts from ya'll on SCCY? I've seen
them in the stores and dismissed them as 'cheap' guns, but I've heard advertisements on podcasts where they talk about the lifetime warrenty - that DOES transfer to anyone else that owns it!

My wife carries an SCCY 9mm in pink. It is a great little purse gun for what it is. For the price it shoots really well and gets the job done. I would never consider it a replacement for my other firearms, but it is perfect
for my wife. If someone were looking for a good occasional use 9mm, I highly recommend it as a great secondary weapon.

Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: Mrplow to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Sep 04 2020 11:29 pm

And speaking of cheap guns, any thougts from ya'll on SCCY? I've seen them in the stores and dismissed them as 'cheap' guns, but I've heard advertisements on podcasts where they talk about the lifetime warrenty that DOES transfer to anyone else that owns it!

My wife carries an SCCY 9mm in pink. It is a great little purse gun for wha it is. For the price it shoots really well and gets the job done. I would never consider it a replacement for my other firearms, but it is perfect
for my wife. If someone were looking for a good occasional use 9mm, I highl recommend it as a great secondary weapon.

When you get used to shooting budget or inexpensive handguns, the worst thing you can do is fire a high end handgun. there's a night and day difference
with some guns. The other day someone let me try out their steel framed Walth er Q5 Match with a Trijicon SRO mounted on it, and I also shot a S&W Performance Center (full sized frame) in 9mm. I actually shot better, and
that may be because of the trigger and sites, and overall smoothness and ergonomics. The SRO by itself was more than I like to spend on a handgun,
but I would like one now.

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MRPLOW wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

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And speaking of cheap guns, any thougts from ya'll on SCCY? I've seen
them in the stores and dismissed them as 'cheap' guns, but I've heard advertisements on podcasts where they talk about the lifetime warrenty - that DOES transfer to anyone else that owns it!

My wife carries an SCCY 9mm in pink. It is a great little purse gun
for what it is. For the price it shoots really well and gets the job done. I would never consider it a replacement for my other firearms,
but it is perfect for my wife. If someone were looking for a good occasional use 9mm, I highly recommend it as a great secondary weapon.

Well with COVID guns are scarce, but I wouldn't mind picking one up
to have as an 'extra' (can you really have too many guns? :) ) - plus they
are making them in a .380 now I understand...




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MOONDOG wrote to MRPLOW <=-

When you get used to shooting budget or inexpensive handguns, the worst thing you can do is fire a high end handgun. there's a night and day difference with some guns. The other day someone let me try out their steel framed Walth er Q5 Match with a Trijicon SRO mounted on it, and I also shot a S&W Performance Center (full sized frame) in 9mm. I
actually shot better, and that may be because of the trigger and sites, and overall smoothness and ergonomics. The SRO by itself was more than
I like to spend on a handgun, but I would like one now.

It's the same with a lot of stuff... Guitars, for example... There is a definate difference in 'feel' of a cheapie vs a high end! But, that being
said, someone who doesn't know the difference will not feel any difference,
but the 'more better' you get the easier it will be to experience it!

As for the Performance Center, my wife has a 9mm and a .380 S&W EZ and loves them! She's not as strong as she used to be and enjoys the 'easy to rack'
part. I've been looking at the PC version of the 9 EZ and thought about surprising her with one...

We both have .40 Shields and I bought the MCARBO trigger kits for them -
WOW! Smooth as butter now! If the PC ones are even better? Look out! LOL



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Re: Re: .22 SAA
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MRPLOW on Wed Sep 09 2020 10:21 am

MRPLOW wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

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And speaking of cheap guns, any thougts from ya'll on SCCY? I've seen them in the stores and dismissed them as 'cheap' guns, but I've heard advertisements on podcasts where they talk about the lifetime warrenty that DOES transfer to anyone else that owns it!

My wife carries an SCCY 9mm in pink. It is a great little purse gun for what it is. For the price it shoots really well and gets the job done. I would never consider it a replacement for my other firearms, but it is perfect for my wife. If someone were looking for a good occasional use 9mm, I highly recommend it as a great secondary weapon.

Well with COVID guns are scarce, but I wouldn't mind picking one up
to have as an 'extra' (can you really have too many guns? :) ) - plus they are making them in a .380 now I understand...

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.380 and 9mm are scarce in my area, and pricey if you do find any.

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