What I did find that I had forgotten about was an older Thinkpad with
What I did find that I had forgotten about was an older Thinkpad with

Mentions old Thinkpad with i7......but not the model number!?

You are torturing thinkpad lovers everywhere.

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What I did find that I had forgotten about was an older Thinkpad with
What I did find that I had forgotten about was an older Thinkpad with

Mentions old Thinkpad with i7......but not the model number!?

You are torturing thinkpad lovers everywhere.

T410, I7-620M, 8 GB RAM, 480 GB SSD - my daily workhorse. Love the keyboard, looks like an antique at coffee shops now.



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Re: Re: Home Lab
By: poindexter FORTRAN to youn33knym on Fri Feb 21 2020 06:50 am

T410, I7-620M, 8 GB RAM, 480 GB SSD - my daily workhorse. Love the keyboard, looks like an antique at coffee shops now.

I like Lenovo. I have a Lenovo laptop that I bought in 2014 that I still use every so often. The only thing I don't really like about the particular model I have is that at the time, Lenovo was using the trackpads with the buttons as part of the trackpad rather than separate physical buttons, like this:
https://www.librador.com/images/blog/thinkpad-trackpad.jpg

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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to youn33knym <=-

Mentions old Thinkpad with i7......but not the model number!?
You are torturing thinkpad lovers everywhere.

T410, I7-620M, 8 GB RAM, 480 GB SSD - my daily workhorse. Love
the keyboard, looks like an antique at coffee shops now.

I have a T510 with the same specs which gets used a lot, every
day. Must be 7-'ish years old now and I still love it. Don't
think I'll ever buy another laptop that isn't a Lenovo.



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Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I have a T510 with the same specs which gets used a lot, every
day. Must be 7-'ish years old now and I still love it. Don't
think I'll ever buy another laptop that isn't a Lenovo.

It'll be hard, when my T410 dies; I'll end up getting a laptop with an
island keyboard. The old-school keyboard is the one thing that keeps me
coming back to the T410. If it would support 16 GB of RAM, I'd keep it forever.

I think the T420 supports 16.



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Re: Re: Home Lab
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Feb 21 2020 01:08 pm

trackpads with the buttons as part of the trackpad rather than separate physical buttons, like this: https://www.librador.com/images/blog/thinkpad-trackpad.jpg

I had a laptop with that stupid button. I hated it. I don't think it was a Leveno though. Some engineer thought it was a great idea. I guess not. I haven't see one of those in years. Maybe in a dumpster somewhere? ;-)
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Re: Re: Home Lab
By: HusTler to Nightfox on Sat Feb 29 2020 02:35 pm

I had a laptop with that stupid button. I hated it. I don't think it was a Leveno though. Some engineer thought it was a great idea. I guess not. I

I assume you mean Lenovo?

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Re: Re: Home Lab
By: HusTler to Nightfox on Sat Feb 29 2020 02:35 pm

Re: Re: Home Lab
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Feb 21 2020 01:08 pm

trackpads with the buttons as part of the trackpad rather than separate physical buttons, like this: https://www.librador.com/images/blog/thinkpad-trackpad.jpg

I had a laptop with that stupid button. I hated it. I don't think it was a Leveno though. Some engineer thought it was a great idea. I guess not. I haven't see one of those in years. Maybe in a dumpster somewhere? ;-)

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Re: Re: Home Lab
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Sat Feb 29 2020 06:22 pm

I had a laptop with that stupid button. I hated it. I don't think it
was a Leveno though. Some engineer thought it was a great idea. I

I assume you mean Lenovo?

Yea..that too. lol

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** On Saturday 29.02.20 - 22:22, nightfox wrote to HusTler:

I had a laptop with that stupid button. I hated it. I don't think it
was a Leveno though. Some engineer thought it was a great idea. I
guess not. I

Ni> I assume you mean Lenovo?

Ni> trackpads with the buttons as part of the trackpad rather than
Ni> separate physical buttons, like this: https://www.librador.com/
Ni> images/blog/thinkpad-trackpad.jpg


I have exactly that on a reccently acquired T540p.

I am finding it very difficult to get used that new design.

I am still using my T60 and it has a small trackapd with actual L+R
buttons below the pad *and* an extra set of buttons above it. The keyboard operates smooth as butter.

The T540p has chicklet keys. I do not like those very much at all.

It is a shame that engineers mess around with something that works so well for the sake of appearances.

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Ogg wrote to All <=-

I had a laptop with that stupid button. I hated it. I don't think it
was a Leveno though. Some engineer thought it was a great idea. I
guess not. I

Ni> I assume you mean Lenovo?

Ni> trackpads with the buttons as part of the trackpad rather than
Ni> separate physical buttons, like this: https://www.librador.com/
Ni> images/blog/thinkpad-trackpad.jpg

I have exactly that on a reccently acquired T540p.
I am finding it very difficult to get used that new design.

Yeah, I would not like that at all. Really prefer having actual
buttons.

I am still using my T60 and it has a small trackapd with actual
L+R buttons below the pad *and* an extra set of buttons above it.
The keyboard operates smooth as butter.

I'm typing this on my Lenovo T510, which is 6-7 years old but
still is working perfectly. I will never buy another laptop that
is NOT a Lenovo, mostly because of the keyboard. It's that good.

I will say that I have the trackpad disabled in the BIOS, although
the little red rubber swivel-button-thingy still works to move the
cursor. I use an external wireless mouse and don't like it when
my hands/thumbs might brush the keypad and cause unwanted
motion/action. That's why I disabled it.

The T540p has chicklet keys. I do not like those very much at
all.

I don't mind them too much on a full size keyboard, but not on a
laptop.

It is a shame that engineers mess around with something that
works so well for the sake of appearances.

Agreed. It's like some people think that change must be made,
just for the sake of change. Leave a good design alone.



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Re: Re: Home Lab
By: Ogg to All on Sun May 03 2020 10:38 pm

I have exactly that on a reccently acquired T540p.
I am finding it very difficult to get used that new design.
I am still using my T60 and it has a small trackapd with actual L+R buttons below the pad *and* an extra set of buttons above it. The keyboard operates smooth as butter.
The T540p has chicklet keys. I do not like those very much at all.
It is a shame that engineers mess around with something that works so well for the sake of appearances.

My ThinkPad collection is still my favorite go-to laptops. They are just tanks, I can beat them down and they keep on serving me - and they do it WELL... as far as Linux goes, I'm often surprised at how much decent, current 2020 worthy tasks they can chew up and spit out...

You know, and sure its a task, but you can replace some newer models keyboards with the older style. I have a T430s with the older T420 keyboard installed. I've also upgraded a few of the LCD panels; there are two easy 1080p+ options.

The ThinkPads are tanks - just smash and mash them into what you need for today.. I've a pretty 27" Apple box for when it needs to be pretty - for getting work done, you can find ME [right now] on a Think-linux-box...

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Re: Re: Home Lab
By: Ogg to All on Sun May 03 2020 10:38 pm

I have exactly that on a reccently acquired T540p.
I am finding it very difficult to get used that new design.
I am still using my T60 and it has a small trackapd with actual L+R buttons below the pad *and* an extra set of buttons above it. The keyboard operates smooth as butter.
The T540p has chicklet keys. I do not like those very much at all.
It is a shame that engineers mess around with something that works so well for the sake of appearances.

My ThinkPad collection is still my favorite go-to laptops. They are
just tanks, I can beat them down and they keep on serving me - and they
do it WELL... as far as Linux goes, I'm often surprised at how much decent, current 2020 worthy tasks they can chew up and spit out...

You know, and sure its a task, but you can replace some newer models keyboards with the older style. I have a T430s with the older T420 keyboard installed. I've also upgraded a few of the LCD panels; there
are two easy 1080p+ options.

The ThinkPads are tanks - just smash and mash them into what you need
for today.. I've a pretty 27" Apple box for when it needs to be pretty
- for getting work done, you can find ME [right now] on a Think-linux-box...

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I have ONLY had thinkpad laptops. My current one is a T43. I can't say they have been utterly unreliable, but the one I have now I purchased second hand in 2014 and still runs great today, albeit a bit slow. I chose the thinkpad primarily due to it appearing a good choice for Linux users. ThinkWiki is an invaluable site.


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Dennisk wrote to Paulie420 <=-

I have ONLY had thinkpad laptops. My current one is a T43. I can't
say they have been utterly unreliable, but the one I have now I
purchased second hand in 2014 and still runs great today, albeit a bit slow.

The T4X series has the best keyboard ever. I picked up a 64GB PATA SSD for mine, and it gave it a power boost that gave it many years of use.

Simple to work on, too.



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Re: Re: Home Lab
By: Dennisk to Paulie420 on Tue May 05 2020 09:21 pm

I have ONLY had thinkpad laptops. My current one is a T43. I can't say they have been utterly unreliable, but the one I have now I purchased second hand in 2014 and still runs great today, albeit a bit slow. I chose the thinkpad primarily due to it appearing a good choice for Linux users. ThinkWiki is an invaluable site.

I'm on a ThinkPad T430s, and run my BBS on an older X61... I wish mine was the T430, so I could upgrade the CPU... but I have the 3550 i7 so its OK; the rest is specced out, 16gb ram SSD, and a LCD upgrade to 1080p... had to order that crazy chinese connector - but it works great.

Fast for linux, and cheap...

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Re: Re: Home Lab
By: Dennisk to Paulie420 on Tue May 05 2020 09:21 pm

I have ONLY had thinkpad laptops. My current one is a T43. I can't say they have been utterly unreliable, but the one I have now I purchased second hand in 2014 and still runs great today, albeit a bit slow. I chose the thinkpad primarily due to it appearing a good choice for Linux users. ThinkWiki is an invaluable site.

I'm on a ThinkPad T430s, and run my BBS on an older X61... I wish mine
was the T430, so I could upgrade the CPU... but I have the 3550 i7 so
its OK; the rest is specced out, 16gb ram SSD, and a LCD upgrade to 1080p... had to order that crazy chinese connector - but it works
great.

Fast for linux, and cheap...

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That is quite a bit more powerful than the one I have (which I am using right now). I upgraded the ram form 1G to 2G because running a single browser and nothing else is touch and go. Also put in a 250G WD Blue IDE drive, the largest I could find. The hard drive has this odd problem where it fails to read certain sections, but only when it is cold. This usually results in a hung boot, so I let the machine warm up for a few minutes usually before I boot in cold weather.

I can't justify buying a faster laptop, when I really do get by on this. I'd rather find more efficient ways to work with the machine, than spend money.


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Dennisk wrote to Paulie420 <=-

this. I'd rather find more efficient ways to work with the machine,
than spend money.

Anyone can solve a probem by throwing money at it. :)

When I discovered Lubuntu and got rid of XP on my single-core T43, I was pleasantly surprised and got a couple of years more life. A cheap PATA SSD gave it a few more years, and I ended up using the same laptop for over 10 years (after it was already obsolete)


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