Moved house and got a new static IP, so just re-testing everything. Hope this one finds its way through OK!

Howdy! :)

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Re: New house, who dis?
By: Retroswim to All on Mon Jun 16 2025 11:22 pm

Moved house and got a new static IP, so just re-testing everything. Hope this one finds its way through OK!

Howdy! :)

yeah it's working. good to see an ezycom bbs.
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yeah it's working. good to see an ezycom bbs

Cheers! Yeah Ezycom was massive in my neck if the woods, so it seemed fitting!

Been a struggle to make it play nice, but worth the efforr I think!

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Re: New house, who dis?
By: Retroswim to All on Mon Jun 16 2025 23:22:18

Moved house and got a new static IP, so just re-testing everything. Hope this one finds its way through OK!

You've reached The End Of The Line in Plano, Texas, USA!

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This is not right. This is not starnet. Neither is starnet any more.

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Re: New house, who dis?
By: Retroswim to MRO on Tue Jun 17 2025 01:05 pm

yeah it's working. good to see an ezycom bbs

Cheers! Yeah Ezycom was massive in my neck if the woods, so it seemed fitting!

Been a struggle to make it play nice, but worth the efforr I think!

it's good to see people run something other than mystic or synchronet.
my buddy t1ny ran ezcom. i also had the last developer on my irc server for a while but he was an odd fella. not very social.
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Re: New house, who dis?
By: nelgin to Retroswim on Mon Jun 16 2025 11:08 pm

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This is not right. This is not starnet. Neither is starnet any more.

Who says it's starnet?


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Re: New house, who dis?
By: Retroswim to MRO on Tue Jun 17 2025 01:05 pm

yeah it's working. good to see an ezycom bbs

Cheers! Yeah Ezycom was massive in my neck if the woods, so it seemed fitting!

Been a struggle to make it play nice, but worth the efforr I think!

btw, i signed up a long time ago and i dont have permissions for anything. there's no way to contact the sysop via email as well.

you might just want to auto validate your users.
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Re: New house, who dis?
By: nelgin to Retroswim on Mon Jun 16 2025 11:08 pm

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This is not right. This is not starnet. Neither is starnet any more.

Who says it's starnet?

He's probably referring to the (incorrect) Zone number 12 in the Origin
line. That used to be the zone of the long-defunct StarNet.



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Re: New house, who dis?
By: deon to nelgin on Tue Jun 17 2025 15:22:51

Who says it's starnet?

Everyone who was a member of starnet probably.

I'm pretty sure it's not dovenet tho.

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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: Gamgee to deon on Tue Jun 17 2025 08:42 am

Who says it's starnet?

He's probably referring to the (incorrect) Zone number 12 in the Origin line. That used to be the zone of the long-defunct StarNet.

Why is it incorrect?

I use zone 12 to supply dovenet to FTN nodes.


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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: deon to Gamgee on Wed Jun 18 2025 08:10 am

Who says it's starnet?

He's probably referring to the (incorrect) Zone number 12 in the Origin
line. That used to be the zone of the long-defunct StarNet.

Why is it incorrect?

I use zone 12 to supply dovenet to FTN nodes.

I think people who run the various FTN networks generally try to choose a unique zone number - they try to make it unique based on known zones of other FTN networks. If one network has a zone that's used by another FTN network, that would make it difficult for a BBS to be on both networks.

That said, if StarNet isn't operating anymore, it might be okay to keep using zone 12, maybe?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: Gamgee to deon on Tue Jun 17 2025 08:42 am

Who says it's starnet?

He's probably referring to the (incorrect) Zone number 12 in the Origin line. That used to be the zone of the long-defunct StarNet.

Why is it incorrect?
I use zone 12 to supply dovenet to FTN nodes.

Well, I guess because nobody knows that. There are lists of known zone numbers and I never heard of 12 being used for something like that. Is
it even allowed to distribute DoveNet via FTN? What if StarNet was
still active - there would be two Zone 12 networks?




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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: Nightfox to deon on Tue Jun 17 2025 06:45 pm

Howdy,

I use zone 12 to supply dovenet to FTN nodes.

I think people who run the various FTN networks generally try to choose a unique zone number - they try to make it unique based on known zones of other FTN networks. If one network has a zone that's used by another FTN network, that would make it difficult for a BBS to be on both networks.

I've never heard of starnet, so by definition to me, its unique.

In the 3 years or so, folks who have got dovenet from me have never mentioned it. (Not that many are getting from me anyway...)

Anyway its probably irrelivant, as my mailer is 5D, so I could run multiple networks as Z12 - and for those who are running a 4D mailer using Z12 for something else could get their mail from somebody else, if they couldnt get it from me.


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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: Gamgee to deon on Tue Jun 17 2025 10:14 pm

Howdy,

numbers and I never heard of 12 being used for something like that. Is
it even allowed to distribute DoveNet via FTN? What if StarNet was
still active - there would be two Zone 12 networks?

I remember this being discussed a long time ago, and I seem to recall that Rob didnt mind. If he does, and he contacts me, I'll action it as appropriate.

If Starnet, or anybody else, was using Zone 12, I should be able to accommodate the other Z12 nets as well - as long as they werent also called "dovenet".


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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: deon to Gamgee on Wed Jun 18 2025 02:22 pm

I remember this being discussed a long time ago, and I seem to recall that Rob didnt mind. If he does, and he contacts me, I'll action it as appropriate.

I don't have a problem with DOVE-Net being distributed via FTN.
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btw, i signed up a long time ago and i dont have permissions for anything. there's no way to contact the sysop via email as well.

I've removed all those restrictions now, feel free to dial back in and let me know if you still have any issues! :)

I was pretty sure my email address and other socials are on both the login screen and the goodbye screen when logging out, I will double check though!

Cheers,
RetroSwim

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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: deon to Nightfox on Wed Jun 18 2025 02:17 pm

I think people who run the various FTN networks generally try to choose a
unique zone number - they try to make it unique based on known zones of
other FTN networks. If one network has a zone that's used by another FTN
network, that would make it difficult for a BBS to be on both networks.

I've never heard of starnet, so by definition to me, its unique.

I doubt "I've never heard of it" is a good argument.. It would probably be prudent to check to see if that zone is in use first, either by checking to see what networks exist or by asking people.

Nightfox

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Who says it's starnet?

Everyone who was a member of starnet probably.

I'm pretty sure it's not dovenet tho.

Someone may be offering FTN feeds using a "dummy" zone number. I offer FTN feeds here using the same zone that Nicholas Boel has set up on his system... 723.

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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: Nightfox to deon on Wed Jun 18 2025 09:27 am

I doubt "I've never heard of it" is a good argument.. It would probably be prudent to check to see if that zone is in use first, either by checking to see what networks exist or by asking people.

Why?


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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: deon to Nightfox on Thu Jun 19 2025 08:43 am

I doubt "I've never heard of it" is a good argument.. It would probably be
prudent to check to see if that zone is in use first, either by checking to
see what networks exist or by asking people.

Why?

So that you don't end up using the same zone number as another network..

Nightfox

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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: Nightfox to deon on Wed Jun 18 2025 06:36 pm

Howdy,

Why?

So that you don't end up using the same zone number as another network..

I already use zone 1 and zone 10 (in addition to zone 12) - hasnt affected anybody that I'm aware of. Have been doing it for years.

The blanket "you shouldnt use another zone of another network" is probably only valid if you have a 4D mailer and/or a 4D mail tosser. That would be the 1st question to ask.

Mine is 5D - so its not an issue.

And if a downstream user is already using a zone that clashes with me - and they can only do 4D, I'll work with them to figure out a workaround - or they can get mail from somebody else.


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deon wrote to Nightfox <=-

Why?

So that you don't end up using the same zone number as another network..

I already use zone 1 and zone 10 (in addition to zone 12) - hasnt
affected anybody that I'm aware of. Have been doing it for years.

The blanket "you shouldnt use another zone of another network" is
probably only valid if you have a 4D mailer and/or a 4D mail tosser.
That would be the 1st question to ask.

Don't quite a few systems still use a 4D tosser?

Mine is 5D - so its not an issue.

And if a downstream user is already using a zone that clashes with me - and they can only do 4D, I'll work with them to figure out a workaround
- or they can get mail from somebody else.

I think the point that Nightfox (and others) are trying to make is....
WHY use a Zone number that is already widely known to be in use? What
actual benefit does that provide you, when there are literally thousands
of other available (unused) Zone numbers?


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Re: Re: New house, who dis?
By: Gamgee to deon on Thu Jun 19 2025 08:12 am

Howdy,

I think the point that Nightfox (and others) are trying to make is....
WHY use a Zone number that is already widely known to be in use? What actual benefit does that provide you, when there are literally thousands
of other available (unused) Zone numbers?

Zone 12 is in wide use? (Yes, 10 and 1 are.)

Anyway, the reason I use existing zone numbers is to test that my mailer can actually work fine in a 5D environment, especially with downstream systems that might be only 4D capabile.

Nobody has exclusive rights/control over a zone number, so I also wanted to make my mailer robust in that area - in case its needed. Its probably not needed since this is a hobby that is unlikely needing that level of scalability anymore.

I've enjoyed building something that enables FTN to be used with new transports, new packet formats, new addressing methods, while supporting the stoneage architecture that some people might want to run. Its an itch I wanted to scratch, so I scratched it - even though some said it was pointless.


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