Hello everyone!

Just "joined" my Mystic BBS to DOVE-Net via Vertrauen and hoping this message reaches you all correctly. :-D

Not sure how well Mystic handles all things QWK, but I guess we'll see.

I have enabled QWKE format (as Mystic seems to allow for it in its uplink configuration) to hopefully get as much metadata as possible.

Does anyone know whether the "Include UTF-8 Characters" QWK setting
should be enabled at the QWK hub? Sounds like the most transparent choice to enable it (any "mangling" on the receiving end should be done on the
receiving end)...

Thanks in advance!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Just "joined" my Mystic BBS to DOVE-Net via Vertrauen and hoping this message reaches you all correctly. :-D

Not sure how well Mystic handles all things QWK, but I guess we'll see.

Got it in Arkansas.

Daryl

... Darn it!! I forgot all about the Amnesia Conference!!
--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50
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Re: Testing
By: Zip to All on Fri Jun 19 2020 01:47 pm

Hello everyone!

Just "joined" my Mystic BBS to DOVE-Net via Vertrauen and hoping this messag reaches you all correctly. :-D

hey you should run synchronet.
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Hello MRO!

Thank you for your reply!

On 19 Jun 2020, MRO said the following...

hey you should run synchronet.

:-D

Actually I tried compiling it on my Debian 10 system last summer but had lots of trouble with mozjs, I think (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bbs.synchronet/JS-J-jzdfdk).

So I settled for Mystic for the time being, but if it is possible to compile
it on a Debian 10 x86_64 system in the future (or third-party builds appear), that might change. :)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Hello Daryl!

On 19 Jun 2020, Daryl Stout said the following...

Not sure how well Mystic handles all things QWK, but I guess we'll se

Got it in Arkansas.

Thanks! Yes, seems to be working, thankfully. :)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Re: Re: Testing
By: Zip to MRO on Sat Jun 20 2020 09:00 am

Actually I tried compiling it on my Debian 10 system last summer but had lots of trouble with mozjs, I think (see

I have it running in a buster docker container - compiled OK, but probably needed some help.

The only issue I have come across though, is cryptlib seems to have a problem with buster, resulting in SBBS core dumping on startup if you have cryptlib servers enabled (like SSH).

...ëîåï

... This was a reminder of an unforgettable voice -- wossisname! you know?

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Re: Re: Testing
By: alterego to Zip on Sat Jun 20 2020 05:27 pm

The only issue I have come across though, is cryptlib seems to have a problem with buster, resulting in SBBS core dumping on startup if you have cryptlib servers enabled (like SSH).

So I had another go at this, and it turns out it was my CPU.

I use docker, so I was compiling on a Xeon but using on an AMD G-T40E and it was core dumping with an illegal instruction.

So I recompile on the AMD (took a lot longer), but no core dump... Not sure the reason, but its the first time for me that a compiled app was coredumping.

TL;DR, Synchronet appears to work fine on buster.

...ëîåï

... It is a well known fact that a deceased body harms the mind.

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Zip wrote to MRO <=-

hey you should run synchronet.

Actually I tried compiling it on my Debian 10 system last summer
but had lots of trouble with mozjs, I think (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bbs.synchronet/JS-J-jz
dfdk).

So I settled for Mystic for the time being, but if it is possible
to compile it on a Debian 10 x86_64 system in the future (or
third-party builds appear), that might change. :)

Synchronet compiles just fine on a Debian 10 system. No issues
whatsoever, assuming one satisfies the pre-requisites properly...

http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix:prerequisites

That google groups thread mentioned SBBS v3.17b, which is now
(quite) old. Try it with the latest (development) version, works
fine.



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Re: Re: Testing
By: Zip to MRO on Sat Jun 20 2020 09:00 am

Hello MRO!

Thank you for your reply!

On 19 Jun 2020, MRO said the following...

hey you should run synchronet.

:-D

Actually I tried compiling it on my Debian 10 system last summer but had lot of trouble with mozjs, I think (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bbs.synchronet/JS-J-jzdfdk).

yeah recently i had trouble compiling it on just ubuntu. shit out tons of errors.
so i run my old version
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Hello alterego!

Thank you for your replies!

On 20 Jun 2020, alterego said the following...

So I recompile on the AMD (took a lot longer), but no core dump... Not sur reason, but its the first time for me that a compiled app was coredumping.

Hmm, yes, sounds like some optimization went wrong somewhere...

Interesting, though -- I guess I'll have to make a new try with my
compilation attempts some day. :)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Hello Gamgee!

On 20 Jun 2020, Gamgee said the following...

That google groups thread mentioned SBBS v3.17b, which is now
(quite) old. Try it with the latest (development) version, works
fine.

Thanks!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Hello MRO!

Thank you for your reply!

On 20 Jun 2020, MRO said the following...

yeah recently i had trouble compiling it on just ubuntu. shit out tons of errors.
so i run my old version

I guess I'll have to try again some time this summer to see if it works
better this time. Could also be something else (libraries?) getting in the
way, perhaps confusing things during configure or compilation...

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Not sure how well Mystic handles all things QWK, but I guess we'll se

Got it in Arkansas.

Thanks! Yes, seems to be working, thankfully. :)

We better not say that too loud...the walls and our computers have
ears <G>.

Daryl

... Either this man's dead, or my watch is stopped. -Groucho
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Re: Re: Testing
By: Zip to MRO on Sat Jun 20 2020 09:00 am

Actually I tried compiling it on my Debian 10 system last summer but had lots of trouble with mozjs, I think (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bbs.synchronet/JS-J-jzdfdk).

So I settled for Mystic for the time being, but if it is possible to compile it on a Debian 10 x86_64 system in the future (or third-party builds appear), that might change. :)

You can always ask for help in the Dove-Net message areas. There are many Synchronet sysops running Linux.

Nightfox

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MRO wrote to Zip <=-

Actually I tried compiling it on my Debian 10 system last summer but had lot of trouble with mozjs, I think (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bbs.synchronet/JS-J-jzdfdk).

yeah recently i had trouble compiling it on just ubuntu. shit out
tons of errors. so i run my old version

You didn't install the pre-requisites.

It compiles just fine on any version of Ubuntu.



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Re: Re: Testing
By: Zip to MRO on Sat Jun 20 2020 08:29 pm

I guess I'll have to try again some time this summer to see if it works better this time. Could also be something else (libraries?) getting in the way, perhaps confusing things during configure or compilation...

If you want to save on compile issues, you are welcome to use my docker image. I've been running SBBS in docker for a good year now. (I update it every now and again...)

Just "docker run..." and away you go...

(If you plan to run doors with dosemu then it is not for you - in theory it should still work fine (I have dosemu running in a different image)...)

...ëîåï

... A fertile imagination is no compensation for vasectomy.

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Hello Daryl!

On 20 Jun 2020, Daryl Stout said the following...

Thanks! Yes, seems to be working, thankfully. :)

We better not say that too loud...the walls and our computers have
ears <G>.

;) ;) ;)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Hello Nightfox!

On 20 Jun 2020, Nightfox said the following...

You can always ask for help in the Dove-Net message areas. There are many ronet sysops running Linux.

Thanks, yes, it seems to be a very popular piece of software indeed!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Hello alterego!

On 21 Jun 2020, alterego said the following...

If you want to save on compile issues, you are welcome to use my docker im 've been running SBBS in docker for a good year now. (I update it every no again...)

Thanks! I'll see how the compilation goes first, and will let you know if I give up. ;)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Re: Re: Testing
By: Zip to MRO on Sat Jun 20 2020 09:00 am

Hello MRO!

Thank you for your reply!

On 19 Jun 2020, MRO said the following...

hey you should run synchronet.

:-D

Actually I tried compiling it on my Debian 10 system last summer but had lots of trouble with mozjs, I think (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bbs.synchronet/JS-J-jzdfdk).

I suspect the problem was fixed since v3.17b, but you specified that CVSTAG in your "make install" command, so you did not benefit from any fixes since then.

So I settled for Mystic for the time being, but if it is possible to compile it on a Debian 10 x86_64 system in the future (or third-party builds appear), that might change. :)

I'm using Debian 9, but I believe I recall others having problem building/running sbbs on Debian 10.

digital man

Sling Blade quote #20:
Doyle: Hey is this the kind of retard that drools and rubs shit in his hair? Norco, CA WX: 80.6øF, 54.0% humidity, 10 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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Hello Digital Man!

On 21 Jun 2020, Digital Man said the following...

I suspect the problem was fixed since v3.17b, but you specified that CVSTA your "make install" command, so you did not benefit from any fixes since t

Ah, yes, that could explain it. Although if I recall correctly I also tried downloading the 3.17b source code (not from CVS) and still had problems.

But I'll give it another try. Thanks!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

On 6/20/2020 2:00 AM, Zip wrote:

Actually I tried compiling it on my Debian 10 system last summer but had lots of trouble with mozjs, I think (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bbs.synchronet/JS-J-jzdfdk).

apt-get install -y build-essential cvs zip libnspr4 \
libnspr4-dev dosemu libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev

mkdir /sbbs
cd /sbbs


# unwrap the following to a single line...

wget 'http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/install/GNUmakefile'


make install SBBSDIR=/sbbs USEDOSEMU=1


--
Michael J. Ryan
tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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Hello Tracker1!

Thank you for your reply!

On 30 Jun 2020, Tracker1 said the following...

apt-get install -y build-essential cvs zip libnspr4 \
libnspr4-dev dosemu libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev

Is that really Debian 10? Do you have some extra repos enabled for dosemu?

root@glimmer:~# apt-cache search dosemu
console-cyrillic - Cyrillic fonts and keyboard layouts for Linux console xfonts-terminus-dos - Fixed-width fonts for DOS encodings
root@glimmer:~#

Thanks in advance!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Re: Re: Testing
By: Tracker1 to Zip on Tue Jun 30 2020 12:18 pm

On 6/20/2020 2:00 AM, Zip wrote:

Actually I tried compiling it on my Debian 10 system last summer but had lots of trouble with mozjs, I think (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bbs.synchronet/JS-J-jzdfdk).

apt-get install -y build-essential cvs zip libnspr4 \
libnspr4-dev dosemu libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev

mkdir /sbbs
cd /sbbs

# unwrap the following to a single line...

wget 'http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/install/GNUmakefile'

make install SBBSDIR=/sbbs USEDOSEMU=1

You don't need the SBBSDIR argument. And that should be USE_DOSEMU=1 (if you want to use DOSemu).

And SYMLINK=1 is also a good idea.

digital man

Sling Blade quote #18:
Karl Childers: Some folks call it Hell, I call it Hades.
Norco, CA WX: 65.6øF, 80.0% humidity, 0 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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Testing FTN DOVE-Net gated through Deon/alterego's HUB.

Jay

... What happens when you get scared half to death.....twice?

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Re: Testing
By: Warpslide to All on Fri Jul 03 2020 10:47 pm

Testing FTN DOVE-Net gated through Deon/alterego's HUB.

Jay

Got you on my QWK node.

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Hello Warpslide!

On 03 Jul 2020, Warpslide said the following...

Testing FTN DOVE-Net gated through Deon/alterego's HUB.

Jay

... What happens when you get scared half to death.....twice?

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þ Synchronet þ Alterant | an SBBS in Docker on Pi!

Seems to be working just fine!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Testing FTN DOVE-Net gated through Deon/alterego's HUB.

Jay

Got it here.

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On 7/1/2020 7:03 AM, Zip wrote:

Hello Tracker1!

Thank you for your reply!

On 30 Jun 2020, Tracker1 said the following...
Tr> apt-get install -y build-essential cvs zip libnspr4 \
Tr> libnspr4-dev dosemu libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev

Is that really Debian 10? Do you have some extra repos enabled for dosemu?

root@glimmer:~# apt-cache search dosemu
console-cyrillic - Cyrillic fonts and keyboard layouts for Linux console xfonts-terminus-dos - Fixed-width fonts for DOS encodings
root@glimmer:~#

I have the following script for a dockerfile I use as a base
guideline... but you'd need to adjust/stop at an appropriate point... I
never finished what I wanted to do...

(unwrap the link below)

https://github.com/bbs-io/synchronet-docker/blob/master/sbbs-scripts/sbbs-build

--
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tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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On 7/1/2020 10:57 AM, Digital Man wrote:

make install SBBSDIR=/sbbs USEDOSEMU=1

You don't need the SBBSDIR argument. And that should be USE_DOSEMU=1 (if you want to use DOSemu).

And SYMLINK=1 is also a good idea.

Thanks... at some point will get around to updating/finishing what I
wanted to do via docker.


--
Michael J. Ryan
tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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Hello Tracker1!

On 06 Jul 2020, Tracker1 said the following...

I have the following script for a dockerfile I use as a base
guideline... but you'd need to adjust/stop at an appropriate point... I never finished what I wanted to do...

(unwrap the link below)

https://github.com/bbs-io/synchronet-docker/blob/master/sbbs-scripts/sbbs-

Thanks! It is much appreciated!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Hello everyone!

Hi there :)

Just "joined" my Mystic BBS to DOVE-Net via Vertrauen and hoping
this message reaches you all correctly. :-D

Welcome aboard! Got you here :)
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Re: Testing
By: Warpslide to All on Fri Jul 03 2020 10:47 pm

Testing FTN DOVE-Net gated through Deon/alterego's HUB.

Got you here in Kansas. :)

Sincerely,
Jon Justvig

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Hello Robert!

On 12 Jul 2020, ROBERT WOLFE said the following...

Welcome aboard! Got you here :)

Many thanks!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (0:0/0)

Trying to send to DOVE from Kangaroo Punch Studios!

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þ Synchronet þ Kangaroo Punch Studios https://kangaroopunch.com

Trying to send to DOVE from Kangaroo Punch Studios!

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þ Synchronet þ Kangaroo Punch Studios https://kangaroopunch.com

Yes, Sir, got it here

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Re: Testing
By: Scott to All on Thu Oct 15 2020 06:47 pm

Trying to send to DOVE from Kangaroo Punch Studios!

Got your message but I'm rather confused - are you studying kangaroo punches or punching kangaroos?

Hatton

... I got a new shadow. My last shadow wasn't doing what I was doing.

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þ Synchronet þ Three Corners and Beyond! http://3corners.us

Hello Scott!

On 15 Oct 2020, Scott said the following...

Trying to send to DOVE from Kangaroo Punch Studios!

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þ Synchronet þ Kangaroo Punch Studios https://kangaroopunch.com

Working fine!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2020/10/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Re: Testing
By: Scott to All on Thu Oct 15 2020 06:47 pm

Trying to send to DOVE from Kangaroo Punch Studios!

We've been punched!

BlaZ

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Re: Testing
By: Hatton to Scott on Fri Oct 16 2020 02:45 am

Re: Testing

We punch anything in our way! Kangaroo Punch builds new software that enables retro goodness on modern machines. Opening our BBS to support SINGE - a laserdisc game creation tool!

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Re: Testing
By: Hatton to Scott on Fri Oct 16 2020 02:45 am

Trying to send to DOVE from Kangaroo Punch Studios!

Got your message but I'm rather confused - are you studying kangaroo punches or punching kangaroos?

I though he might be drinking kangaroo punch! ;)

Jay

... I've always pictured myself taking selfies

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Testing Outbound

|08% |15Dribble|08 [|15ACiDiC/nRk|08]|07

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On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 21:57:57 -0800
"Dribble" (VERT/LUNATIC) <VERT/LUNATIC!Dribble@endofthelinebbs.com>
wrote:

Testing Outbound

|08% |15Dribble|08 [|15ACiDiC/nRk|08]|07

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You've reached The End Of The Line in Plano, Texas, USA!
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telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23
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Hello Dribble!

On 08 Mar 2025, Dribble said the following...

Testing Outbound

% Dribble [ACiDiC/nRk]

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Got you here! Seems to be working just fine!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden

Dribble wrote to All <=-

Testing Outbound

|08% |15Dribble|08 [|15ACiDiC/nRk|08]|07

Loud and clear here in Kurten, Texas! (pop. 218)

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Dribble wrote to All <=-

@MSGID: <67CD2DE5.36.dove-ops@lunatic.synchro.net>
@TZ: 41e0
Testing Outbound

Working all right!

... Got my tie caught in the fax... Suddenly I was in L.A.
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