Ok.. time to bring this to the big boys. My BBS is hosted by MarisaG. I set up Interbbs messaging. I can send messages without any trouble but I'm not listed on the Interbbs user list. All the correct ports are open.( Says MarisaG anyway). My BBS is listed on the Synchronet BBS list. So am I not listed on the user list? Anyone?

HusTler
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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to All on Fri Sep 18 2020 09:00 pm

Ok.. time to bring this to the big boys. My BBS is hosted by MarisaG. I set up Interbbs messaging. I can send messages without any trouble but I'm not listed on the Interbbs user list. All the correct ports are open.( Says MarisaG anyway). My BBS is listed on the Synchronet BBS list. So am I not listed on the user list? Anyone?

The requirements are here: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:sbbsimsg#requirements

As of this morning, you didn't have the activeuser/systat-UDP service
available to the public Internet (from sbbslist.json):
"last_success": {
"on": "2020-09-18T07:53:17.263Z",
"result": "Synchronet BBS for Linux Version 3.18",
"stopcause": "Poll timeout reached: 10 seconds",
"service": {
"protocol": "telnet",
"address": "havens.synchro.net",
"port": 23
},
"ip_address": "45.56.88.52",
"other_services": {
"tcp": [
"msp",
"nntp",
"smtp",
"pop3",
"irc"
],
"udp": []

But now you do, as verified on http://vert.synchro.net/scanmyports.ssjs?havens.synchro.net

Scanning: havens.synchro.net

Sending UDP service requests...
systat

digital man

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Fri Sep 18 2020 09:40 pm

As of this morning, you didn't have the activeuser/systat-UDP service available to the public Internet (from sbbslist.json):

But now you do, as verified on http://vert.synchro.net/scanmyports.ssjs?havens.synchro.net

Scanning: havens.synchro.net

I'm still not listed. :-(

HusTler
havens.synchro.net:23

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 2020 08:07 am

Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Fri Sep 18 2020 09:40 pm

As of this morning, you didn't have the activeuser/systat-UDP service available to the public Internet (from sbbslist.json):

But now you do, as verified on http://vert.synchro.net/scanmyports.ssjs?havens.synchro.net

Scanning: havens.synchro.net

I'm still not listed. :-(

As of this morning, your system didn't respond on UDP port 11:

"success": true,
"last_success": {
"on": "2020-09-19T07:42:31.320Z",
"result": "Synchronet BBS for Linux Version 3.18",
"stopcause": "Poll timeout reached: 10 seconds",
"service": {
"protocol": "telnet",
"address": "havens.synchro.net",
"port": 23
},
"ip_address": "45.56.88.52",
"other_services": {
"tcp": [
"msp",
"nntp",
"smtp",
"pop3",
"irc"
],
"udp": []
}
}

That "udp" array would contain "systat" if it worked. It didn't.

You can run the scan yourself using this page: http://vert.synchro.net/scanmyports.ssjs?havens.synchro.net

UDP Service Port Result
systat 11 Failure


digital man

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Sat Sep 19 2020 02:47 pm

Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 2020 08:07 am

Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Fri Sep 18 2020 09:40 pm

As of this morning, you didn't have the activeuser/systat-UDP service available to the public Internet (from sbbslist.json):

But now you do, as verified on http://vert.synchro.net/scanmyports.ssjs?havens.synchro.net

Scanning: havens.synchro.net

I'm still not listed. :-(

This message thread really has nothing to do with DOVE-Net, so I wish were not having it here, but anyway, did you confirm you actually have the ActiveUser-UDP service enabled in your sbbs instance? i.e. in services.ini:

[ActiveUser-UDP]
Port=11
MaxClients=10
LogLevel=Notice
Options=UDP | NO_HOST_LOOKUP
Command=fingerservice.js -u


digital man

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Sat Sep 19 2020 02:51 pm

This message thread really has nothing to do with DOVE-Net, so I wish were n having it here, but anyway, did you confirm you actually have the ActiveUser-UDP service enabled in your sbbs instance? i.e. in services.ini:

My Apologies. I meant to post it in Synchronet SysOps. I don't know of any other BBS software that carries Dovenet so I just assume I'm in the right area. The important thing is that I get an answer to my question which in this case I did not.

HusTler
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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 2020 08:32 pm

Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Sat Sep 19 2020 02:51 pm

This message thread really has nothing to do with DOVE-Net, so I wish

were n

having it here, but anyway, did you confirm you actually have the ActiveUser-UDP service enabled in your sbbs instance? i.e. in services.ini:

My Apologies. I meant to post it in Synchronet SysOps. I don't know of any other BBS software that carries Dovenet so I just assume I'm in the right area. The important thing is that I get an answer to my question which in this case I did not.

I asked you a question as well an did not get an answer. Do you think that is important too?

digital man

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Sat Sep 19 2020 02:51 pm

having it here, but anyway, did you confirm you actually have the ActiveUser-UDP service enabled in your sbbs instance? i.e. in services.ini:

[ActiveUser-UDP]
Port=11
MaxClients=10
LogLevel=Notice
Options=UDP | NO_HOST_LOOKUP
Command=fingerservice.js -u

Yes.

HusTler
havens.synchro.net:23

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Sun Sep 20 2020 06:36 pm

Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Sat Sep 19 2020 02:51 pm

having it here, but anyway, did you confirm you actually have the ActiveUser-UDP service enabled in your sbbs instance? i.e. in services.ini:

[ActiveUser-UDP]
Port=11
MaxClients=10
LogLevel=Notice
Options=UDP | NO_HOST_LOOKUP
Command=fingerservice.js -u

Yes.

Well it seems to be working now: http://vert.synchro.net/scanmyports.ssjs?havens.synchro.net

reports:
UDP Service Port Result
systat 11 Success


digital man

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Sun Sep 20 2020 06:46 pm

ActiveUser-UDP service enabled in your sbbs instance? i.e. in services.ini:

[ActiveUser-UDP]
Port=11
MaxClients=10
LogLevel=Notice
Options=UDP | NO_HOST_LOOKUP
Command=fingerservice.js -u

Yes.

Well it seems to be working now: http://vert.synchro.net/scanmyports.ssjs?havens.synchro.net

No it's not. I am still not listed on the Interbbs user list

HusTler
havens.synchro.net:23

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Mon Sep 21 2020 08:22 am

I recently went through the same process - my issue was that I had not yet added my BBS to the Synchronet list which I see yours is.

Beyond that I did much of what DM was saying - ensure the services are running in the services.ini file.

I had to double check the [MSP], [MSP-UDP], [ActiveUser] and [ActiveUser-UDP] configs to ensure that they didn't include a flag "Enabled=false"

Hatton

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Mon Sep 21 2020 08:22:49

Well it seems to be working now:
http://vert.synchro.net/scanmyports.ssjs?havens.synchro.net

No it's not. I am still not listed on the Interbbs user list

Something is listening. Maybe it isn't your BBS. Try this command:

netstat -lunp

Look for something under Local Address:Port ending in :11. You might need to run that as root to get the name of the process that's using the port.

FYI, you've been sending me IMs for days, and they are getting through, but I can't reply because (as you know) you're not in the list. Maybe keep the discussion happening here until it's fixed.

You just sent me an instant message to say:

"Active-User port 11 is not binding. How can this be fixed?"

How do you know it isn't binding? If you saw that in an error message, please share it.

If something else is occupying that port, you or Marisa will need to track it down and turn it off.

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: echicken to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 01:25 pm

Something is listening. Maybe it isn't your BBS. Try this command:

netstat -lunp

Look for something under Local Address:Port ending in :11. You might need to run that as root to get the name of the process that's using the port.

FYI, you've been sending me IMs for days, and they are getting through, but can't reply because (as you know) you're not in the list. Maybe keep the discussion happening here until it's fixed.

Ok Thanks. DM said he was going to add me to the sbbs list. Not sure what that's all about but it works great. In the mean time I'd like to see if something can be learned here. Here is the result of netstat -lunp

Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:11 0.0.0.0:*
848/sbbs
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:17 0.0.0.0:*
848/sbbs
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:18 0.0.0.0:*
848/sbbs
udp 0 0 127.0.0.53:53 0.0.0.0:*
583/systemd-resolve
udp 0 0 45.56.88.52:68 0.0.0.0:*
554/systemd-network
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:79 0.0.0.0:*
848/sbbs
udp6 0 0 :::11 :::*
848/sbbs
udp6 0 0 :::17 :::*
848/sbbs
udp6 0 0 :::18 :::*
848/sbbs
udp6 0 0 :::79 :::*
848/sbbs

HusTler
havens.synchro.net:23

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: echicken to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 01:25 pm

"Active-User port 11 is not binding. How can this be fixed?"

How do you know it isn't binding? If you saw that in an error message, pleas share it.

There's always errors binding. I just ignore them because there's nothing I can do about them. I assume they eventually do bind. Here's a snip of the error log. Most ports eventually do bind. I doubt the BBS would work without port 23. ;) Sometimes I have to reboot the server to get them to bind. Other times I just need to restart the BBS. Hey. I never said running a BBS was easy. ;)

Mon Sep 21 13:25:28 2020 havens.synchronetbbs.org
term 0003 !ERROR 13 (Permission denied) binding Telnet Server socket to port 23

Mon Sep 21 13:25:28 2020 havens.synchronetbbs.org
srvc 0039 !ERROR 98 (Address already in use) binding JSON socket to port 10088

Mon Sep 21 13:25:28 2020 havens.synchronetbbs.org
srvc JSON !ERROR initializing JavaScript context

Mon Sep 21 19:12:14 2020 havens.synchronetbbs.org
srvc 0000 MRC-Connector Invalid message from client: GET / HTTP/1.0

I cleared the log but this afternoon I saw Active-User !ERROR 13 (Permission denied) binding port 11

HusTler
havens.synchro.net:23

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to echicken on Mon Sep 21 2020 08:27 pm

Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: echicken to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 01:25 pm

"Active-User port 11 is not binding. How can this be fixed?"

How do you know it isn't binding? If you saw that in an error message, pleas share it.

There's always errors binding. I just ignore them because there's nothing I can do about them.

You could set REUSEADDR=1 in your sockopts.ini as suggested in http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#rebind

Have you tried that?

I assume they eventually do bind. Here's a snip of the
error log. Most ports eventually do bind. I doubt the BBS would work without port 23. ;) Sometimes I have to reboot the server to get them to bind. Other times I just need to restart the BBS. Hey. I never said running a BBS was easy. ;)

I cleared the log but this afternoon I saw Active-User !ERROR 13 (Permission denied) binding port 11

Well that would explain some things.

digital man

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to echicken on Mon Sep 21 2020 20:13:16

udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:11 0.0.0.0:* 848/sbbs

That *seems* fine, but I did not get the output I expected when I tried that service on your board earlier, and yesterday.

Unless there was nobody online at the time, in which case maybe it outputs nothing (but a glance at the code tells me I should expect at least a table header).

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to echicken on Mon Sep 21 2020 20:27:36

There's always errors binding. I just ignore them because there's nothing I can do about them. I

"Permission Denied" and "Address already in use" are both easily solved and are probably in the top five problems encountered by new Synchronet sysops (on linux). There are things you can do.

Mon Sep 21 13:25:28 2020 havens.synchronetbbs.org
srvc 0039 !ERROR 98 (Address already in use) binding JSON socket to port 10088

For "Address already in use" errors, add "REUSEADDR = 1" to the global section of ctrl/sockopts.ini.

term 0003 !ERROR 13 (Permission denied) binding Telnet Server socket to port 23
I cleared the log but this afternoon I saw Active-User !ERROR 13 (Permission denied) binding port 11

For "Permission denied" errors, you might want to look here:

http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:linux_non-root

Mon Sep 21 19:12:14 2020 havens.synchronetbbs.org
srvc 0000 MRC-Connector Invalid message from client: GET / HTTP/1.0

MRC-Connector shouldn't be receiving HTTP requests from anything. This suggest that its port is open to the outside world, and it doesn't need to be. It doesn't matter and you can ignore this error, but I'm just sayin'.

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HusTler wrote:

Ok.. time to bring this to the big boys. My BBS is hosted by MarisaG. I set up Interbbs messaging. I can send messages without any trouble but I'm not listed on the Interbbs user list. All the correct ports are open.( Says MarisaG anyway). My BBS is listed on the Synchronet BBS list. So am I not listed on the user list? Anyone?

HusTler
havens.synchro.net:23

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There's something wrong with your UDP port 11.

Double check your local firewall.

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: echicken to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 10:03 pm

"Permission Denied" and "Address already in use" are both easily solved
and are probably in the top five problems encountered by new Synchronet sysops (on linux). There are things you can do.

For "Address already in use" errors, add "REUSEADDR = 1" to the global section of ctrl/sockopts.ini.

Ok Added REUSEADDR = 1 to sockopts.ini

HusTler
havens.synchro.net:23

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:07 pm

You could set REUSEADDR=1 in your sockopts.ini as suggested in http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#rebind

Have you tried that?

Yes sir. No difference. Still not listed on Interbbs users

HusTler
havens.synchro.net:23

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Tue Sep 22 2020 07:20 am

Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:07 pm

You could set REUSEADDR=1 in your sockopts.ini as suggested in http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#rebind

Have you tried that?

Yes sir. No difference. Still not listed on Interbbs users

Actually, yes, your system is now listed: ftp://vert.synchro.net/sbbsimsg.lst

But no, your active-user/systat service isn't actually working (it's not responding to UDP-requests).

digital man

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Tue Sep 22 2020 07:20 am

Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:07 pm

You could set REUSEADDR=1 in your sockopts.ini as suggested in http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#rebind

Have you tried that?

Yes sir. No difference. Still not listed on Interbbs users

Actually, yes, your system is listed. But the suggestion to use that setting was to eliminate the re-bind errors you reported seeing.

digital man

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Tue Sep 22 2020 03:41 pm

You could set REUSEADDR=1 in your sockopts.ini as suggested in http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#rebind

Have you tried that?

Actually, yes, your system is listed. But the suggestion to use that setting was to eliminate the re-bind errors you reported seeing.

I added REUSEADDR=1 to sockopts.ini. Still no change. The offer stands to give you full access to the BBS. I have no idea what could be wrong.

HusTler
havens.synchro.net:23

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Tue Sep 22 2020 10:05 pm

Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Tue Sep 22 2020 03:41 pm

You could set REUSEADDR=1 in your sockopts.ini as suggested in http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#rebind

Have you tried that?

Actually, yes, your system is listed. But the suggestion to use that setting was to eliminate the re-bind errors you reported seeing.

I added REUSEADDR=1 to sockopts.ini. Still no change.

No change in what, exactly?

The offer stands to
give you full access to the BBS. I have no idea what could be wrong.

It appears you have issues with UDP port 11 on your server.

digital man

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Tue Sep 22 2020 10:38 pm

I added REUSEADDR=1 to sockopts.ini. Still no change.

No change in what, exactly?

Ports are still having trouble binding

The offer stands to
give you full access to the BBS. I have no idea what could be wrong.

It appears you have issues with UDP port 11 on your server.

I understand that. Can you think of anyway to fix that?

digital man

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Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Wed Sep 23 2020 08:33 am

Re: Synchronet Interbbs messaging
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Tue Sep 22 2020 10:38 pm

I added REUSEADDR=1 to sockopts.ini. Still no change.

No change in what, exactly?

Ports are still having trouble binding

The offer stands to
give you full access to the BBS. I have no idea what could be wrong.

It appears you have issues with UDP port 11 on your server.

I understand that. Can you think of anyway to fix that?

Yes, I responded to the other thread.

digital man

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