• Apple could soon be force

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to All on Saturday, February 08, 2025 10:33:00
    Apple could soon be forced to give away all your encrypted data to the UK government

    Date:
    Fri, 07 Feb 2025 16:24:20 +0000

    Description:
    The UK issued the order under the controversial Investigatory Powers Act.
    Now, experts fear that Meta and Google could be the next target, warning against mass surveillance.

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    UK authorities want to force Apple to break its end-to-end encryption protections and allow it to spy on all data stored by users worldwide in its cloud storage service.

    The Washington Post was the first to report on the undisclosed order the Big Tech Giant supposedly received last month.

    People familiar with the matter told the publication that Apple is likely to stop offering encrypted storage in the UK, rather than undermine the privacy and security promised by its services. Yet, this may not be enough for Apple
    to completely avoid the requirement to comply with encryption backdoor
    demands in other countries.

    Issued under the controversial 2016 Investigatory Powers Act, the UK order
    adds to ongoing pressures in Europe and beyond to create backdoors in
    encrypted software that could facilitate law enforcement's criminal investigations. Technologists and privacy experts, however, have long argued how this would undermine citizens' overall security while fueling indiscriminate mass surveillance. After Apple, they now fear Meta and Google could become the UK's next target.

    UK's encryption backdoor request

    The UK notice targets all encrypted content iPhone, iPad, and macOS users across the world have stored using Apple's Advanced Data Protection (ADP).

    While this isn't a default feature, users can manually enable this protection for extra privacy and security to encrypt all the stored data. This means
    that not even Apple itself can access these files. It's worth mentioning that the FBI also expressed concerns about this feature when it launched in 2022.

    So far, Apple, and even the UK Home Office, have declined to share comments
    on the matter, with the latter saying it does not confirm or deny the
    existence of such notice.

    Deemed Snooper Chart by its critics, the Investigatory Power Act allows law enforcement "to compel assistance from companies when needed to collect evidence," said an anonymous Washington Post source reportedly close to the matter.

    Worse still, among other things, last year's proposed amendment to the law seeks to require all tech companies to ask for approval from the Home Office before adding new security or privacy features, encryption included. At the time, Apple strongly criticized the proposal, arguing it "would undermine fundamental human rights."

    "This is a deeply concerning step that has huge ramifications for both encryption and for people's data privacy worldwide," Jurgita Miseviciute,
    Head of Public Policy at Proton, told TechRadar.

    The provider behind one of the best VPN , encrypted email, and drive services on the market, Proton fears that compliance from Apple would create a
    dangerous precedent in the fight against encrypted apps.

    Other experts and privacy advocates fear that the likes of Google and Meta
    may be next. Both companies, in fact, offer encrypted backup options.

    In a tweet on X , the Director of Big Brother Watch, Silkie Carlo, wrote: "It is completely unprecedented for a Government in any democracy to take our ability to have a private conversation, without the state listening in, away from millions of its own citizens let alone the world. It is sinister in the extreme."

    It's not just our privacy at stake, though. Experts also argue that, on a technical level, encryption backdoors will create more problems than they
    solve by allowing cybercriminals to exploit vulnerable entry points.

    "Backdoors to encryption that only let the good guys in are impossible," said Miseviciute. "Removing access to end-to-end encryption in the UK for people's files would be a huge step backward that would create a two-tier system,
    erode trust, and expose British users to surveillance and cyber threats."

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    Link to news story: https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/apple-could-soon-be-forced- to-give-away-all-your-encrypted-data-to-the-uk-government

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Mike Powell on Saturday, February 08, 2025 18:59:00
    Hello Mike Powell!

    ** On Saturday 08.02.25 - 10:33, Mike Powell wrote to All:

    Apple could soon be forced to give away all your encrypted
    data to the UK government

    Date:
    Fri, 07 Feb 2025 16:24:20 +0000

    Description:
    The UK issued the order under the controversial
    Investigatory Powers Act. Now, experts fear that Meta and
    Google could be the next target, warning against mass
    surveillance.

    Wasn't this already explored/attempted last year or so? I hope
    there are significant forces that can counter that move.



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Sunday, February 09, 2025 09:03:00
    Apple could soon be forced to give away all your encrypted
    data to the UK government

    Wasn't this already explored/attempted last year or so? I hope
    there are significant forces that can counter that move.

    I am not certain about this move in particular, but there has also been something similar going on in the EU for a while now. Some of the
    countries are not in agreement that encryption should be "opened" to law enforcement because introducing that opening would provide hackers/etc. a backdoor for exploit.

    Supposedly the EU wants the ability on the grounds of child safety.

    Someone living in the EU may be able to explain it a little better, but
    that is my understanding of it.

    And, yes, I also hope there are significant forces that can counter such
    moves.


    Mike


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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Mike Powell on Sunday, February 09, 2025 18:07:00
    Hello Mike!

    Supposedly the EU wants the ability on the grounds of
    child safety.

    Sounds like that's the in-style ethical excuse right now.
    Isn't the whole point to allow scanning of stored images for
    potential evidence?


    And, yes, I also hope there are significant forces that
    can counter such moves.

    At best Apple may only disable encrypted storage, but leave
    people on their own to ensure privacy/encryption somehow.

    "The UK government's "technical capability notice" requires
    blanket access rather than merely assistance to access a
    specific account"

    Since there is no precedent to this demand and outcome, Apple
    might have a good legal standing.

    I certainly hope so.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Monday, February 10, 2025 09:21:00
    Supposedly the EU wants the ability on the grounds of
    child safety.

    Sounds like that's the in-style ethical excuse right now.
    Isn't the whole point to allow scanning of stored images for
    potential evidence?

    That is very much the in-style ethical excuse right now for government
    entities that want to play Big Brother.

    At best Apple may only disable encrypted storage, but leave
    people on their own to ensure privacy/encryption somehow.

    Sort of what we had before.

    "The UK government's "technical capability notice" requires
    blanket access rather than merely assistance to access a
    specific account"

    Since there is no precedent to this demand and outcome, Apple
    might have a good legal standing.

    I certainly hope so.

    As do I. Per account would make more sense. I don't know about now but,
    in the past, in the USA, you had to have a warrant to tap specific phone
    lines. IMHO, this should be quite similar to that.

    Mike


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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to August Abolins on Friday, February 14, 2025 13:37:45
    Wasn't this already explored/attempted last year or so? I hope
    there are significant forces that can counter that move.

    I think the U.S. was pressuring/asking for something like this, but the UK did it through the legal system... hopefully, Apple will only add this to UK devices IF they even play ball.

    Its a sad state when a govt can control free enterprise.



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