• Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)

    From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Saturday, January 17, 2026 11:51:44
    Re: Re: Participation
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Fri Jan 17 2025 08:38:38

    Just very minor repairs on older stuff. I don't have the tools nor the eyesight to deal with "wave soldered, surface mount components.

    I have never had the nerve to work on surface mount stuff. I chatted
    with someone on IRC who baked a motherboard in a conventional oven and
    then basically used a microscope to replace an SMT component. It was a success! But it didn't look pretty.

    Oh, I still red-neck things from time to time. But mostly, at 82, I'm Dunno. Me and church aren't well acquainted these days. Here at the
    house I've got Bluetooth speakers that I send my music to so I'm all
    jazzed up everywhere in nthe house. Bv)=

    Re-reading the schematics, this radio only does AM and shortwave, which
    rules out the "church" transmitters. Here's a photo of the radio:

    https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/general_el_j105.html

    I read that after they sit in the attic for decades they commonly need
    some TLC, capacitors replaced, etc. Definitely not as practical as
    your BT speaker setup. :)

    While searching for an AM transmitter i found some fun comments on hackaday.com:

    "As to why anyone ... would want to listen to an old radio, it is just
    one of those things. Same reason as people drive antique cars, it is
    nostalgia. We fix them and use them. ... the same could be said for
    cooking. Why bother when you can bring home takeout?"

    "Quickest way to transmit analogue TV signals short range is simply to
    connect a regular antena amplifier to the RF out of say an old VCR,
    perhaps having a CCTV camera attached via s-video for example. Most
    will even allow you to set the RF channel. It will be able to be
    received by an analogue TV in the vicinity with reasonable picture
    quality."

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bluenose Strawberry Soup
    Categories: Microwave, Soups/stews
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 c Strawberries; sliced,
    - plus extra for garnish
    2 tb Brandy
    1 c Sour cream
    1/2 ts Vanilla extract
    1 c Half and half
    Mint sprigs; for garnish
    1/4 c Sugar

    Blend strawberries, sour cream, half and half, sugar, brandy, and
    vanilla until smooth, about 30 to 45 seconds. Serve in chilled. and
    garnish with sliced strawberries and mint sprigs.

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 10:09:15
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sat Jan 18 2025 13:23:18

    I "attended" that way several times. In the fall, when we
    The last few months tho, we've been working on a merger with another congregation and AFAIK, they don't broadcast/link in their service anywhere.

    How'd drive-in style service treat you?

    I used to attend a spiritual community in Eugene that gave dharma talks.
    During COVID they set up cameras and a large screen so that others
    could attend over the Internet. It was a huge success for the community
    and they grew in size.

    However, i couldn't adjust to it. I did not like being on camera. For community, meditation, philosophy, song, etc. i strongly prefer it to be
    a small, in-person group. For me, the Internet sucks the joy out of
    that stuff.

    Title: Bluenose Strawberry Soup

    How did "bluenose" get into the title? I don't see anywhere where it
    would be related to what is in it except maybe the brandy--something
    only affordable to the upper classes? Srawberry season will be coming in
    a few months; I'll consider making this, leaving out the brandy.

    Dave asked the same thing, and the best i could come up with was the
    following theory:

    The recipe came from a cookbook titled The Strawberry Connection and it was
    in a series of cookbooks that began with The Blueberry Connection. My
    guess is that it began as a blueberry recipe and was adapted for
    strawberries.

    <https://nimbus.ca/store/blueberry-connection.html>


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    Title: Date Pudding
    Categories: Puddings
    Yield: 1 Pudding

    1 1/2 c Dates; pitted
    1/2 c Milk
    1 c Nuts; chopped
    1 c Sugar
    3 Eggs
    1 c Flour
    2 tb Butter
    1 ts Banilla
    1 ts Baking powder
    1/4 ts Salt

    Mix the butter and sugar and add the beaten eggs and milk. Sift the
    dry ingredients and add them to the liquid mixture, reserving enough
    flour to coat the dates and nuts. Add them and the vanilla. Bake in a
    shallow greased pan in a very slow oven (250°F) for 1 hour and 45
    minutes, until set in the center. Cut in squares and serve with
    whipped cream.

    Recipe by Aunt Sammy's Radio Recipes 1976

    Recipe FROM: <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/65379>

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Friday, January 23, 2026 10:24:59
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 21 2025 12:27:04

    Found that their music preference is LOUD so we've been
    sitting in the overflow room to cut the volume level somewhat.

    Sound volume preferences are also a challenge. I used to attend an
    ecstatic dance in Eugene. When i started, they played a lot of world
    music. Then after a DJ change, they played a lot of soulless EDM,
    raised the volume about 400%, raised the admission fee, and started
    selling earplugs at the entrance. Ironically i am hard of earing but
    the sound volume was painful for me. No thanks!

    Sounds logical to me. What other fruits are in the series? Peach would
    be a good one.

    Unfortunately, i could not find The Peach Connection.

    From: <https://nimbus.ca/book-author/beatrice-buszek>

    The Apple Connection
    The Blueberry Connection
    The Strawberry Connection
    The Sugar Bush Connection (Maple Syrup)

    And here's a sweet recipe for you...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Yogurt Honey Cream Pie
    Categories: Pies
    Yield: 1 Pie

    4 1/2 ts Unflavored gelatin
    1/2 c Water
    3 c Strawberry; lemon, vanilla,
    - or apricot yogurt
    1/2 c Honey
    1 ds Salt
    Food coloring (optional)
    1 1/2 c Heavy cream; whipped

    MMMMM--------------------TOASTY OAT PIE CRUST-------------------------
    1 c Oats; uncooked
    1/3 c Nuts; finely chopped
    1/3 c Brown sugar; firmly packed
    3 tb Butter; up to 4 tb, melted
    1/2 ts Cinnamon

    Toasty Oat Pie Crust:

    Combine all crust ingredients; mix well. Press onto bottom and sides
    of very lightly oiled 9" pie plate. Bake in preheated moderate oven
    (375°F) for 8 to 10 minutes or until golden brown. Chill.

    Variation:

    Substitute 1/3 c uncooked quick oats, wheat germ, or unprocessed bran
    for nuts.

    Filling:

    Soften gelatin in water; stir over low heat until dissolved. Combine
    yogurt, honey, salt, and food coloring, mixing until well blended.
    Gradually add dissolved gelatin; mix well. Chill about 15 minutes or
    until slightly thickened. Fold in whipped cream. Chill 45 minutes or
    until mixture mounds when dropped from spoon; mound into Toasty Oat
    Crust. Chill 4 hours or until firm.

    Recipe by Quaker Oats Wholegrain Cookbook

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Sunday, January 25, 2026 11:26:16
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Fri Jan 24 2025 14:16:21

    Hi Ruth,

    Are you based in Oregon? That, and North Dakota are the only 2 states
    I've yet to visit. One of these days I'll get to them.

    Yes, i am based in Oregon. I would be game for meeting up if you make it
    out here.

    We were
    also introduced to maple creemees, a Vermont specialty where maple syrup
    is blended with soft serve ice cream, decadent but yummy.

    I've seen articles about Canada's strategic Maple Syrup Reserve, and
    sometimes i have difficulty telling whether they are serious. ;)

    I'd love to try a maple creemee some day. I've had family and friends with
    ice cream makers, but i've never tried my hand at making it myself. I read that it can be easy to do using a mason jar in the freezer.

    Here's another sweet recipe. We have a seasonal treat made in Washington called Applets and Cotlets. It is basically the same thing referred to in
    The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe (Narnia Book 1) as Turkish Delight.
    If it were me, i'd skip the coloring and add some fruit juice, preserves,
    etc.

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    Title: Turkish Paste (Turkish Delight)
    Categories: Candy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    3 tb Gelatin
    1/2 c Water; cold
    1 lb Sugar
    1/2 c Water; hot
    1/4 ts Salt
    3 tb Lemon juice
    Green coloring
    Mint flavoring
    1 c Nuts; finely chopped

    Soften the gelatin in the cold water for 5 minutes. Bring the hot
    water and sugar to the boiling point. Add the salt and gelatin, stir
    until the gelatin has dissolved, and simmer for 20 minutes. Remove
    from the fire and when cool add the lemon juice, coloring, and mint
    flavoring. Stir in the nuts and allow the mixture to stand until it
    begins to thicken. Stir again before pouring into a wet pan and have
    the layer of paste about 1" thick. Let stand overnight in a cool
    place.

    Moisten a sharp knife in boiling water, cut the candy in cubes, and
    roll in powdered sugar.

    Recipe by Aunt Sammy's Radio Recipes 1931

    Recipe FROM: <https://archive.org/details/auntsammysradior1931unit>

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 11:27:33
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sun Jan 26 2025 19:12:10

    One of these days, we just might make it. Oregon is one of the states
    our daughter in AZ has mentioned she might want to move to, now that
    she's retired from active duty with the National Guard. She has 2 boys,
    one on the autism spectrum and she mentioned that the state is good for education. Don't know what she was basing that on but...

    From my perspective my educational experience was good, but my friend's
    kids in Eugene had even better, going to charter schools, until the
    Covid thing. Abruptly shifting to distance learning was hard on them,
    and i personally think that folks aren't aware just how harmful that
    was. I don't know about autism, but a friend of a friend is a teacher in Seattle, and she said that nearly 100% of her students have a diagnosis
    of some kind, autism, A.D.D., depression, etc. and that most of them are
    on a prescription of some kind. Some things are better, like classes
    teaching about communication, emotional intelligence, and interpersonal
    skils (wish *I* had learned those as a kid), and some things are far
    worse.

    We found that not all parts of Vermont do the creemees. Several years
    ago we were camping near Manchester, finally found a stand that served
    us some soft serve ice cream with maple syrup poured over it. Not quite
    the same but close enough for that night. A couple of days later, we
    moved up to Washington, and knew we could get (and did) creemees in
    Barre, about 15 minutes away.

    Maple syrup poured on soft-serve icecream reminds me of Laura Ingalls
    book Little House In The Woods where they poured maple syrup on the snow
    to harden it into a frozen candy. I'd eat that. :9

    OK, I'd wondered, when I read the book, what Turkish Delight was. I was thinking that it might be something like the old candy, Turkish Taffy.
    I'd skip the artificial coloring, and maybe try it with raw sugar as we don't keep refined sugar in the house.
    Can I leave the nuts out? I like some nuts, but don't really like nuts
    in most foods.

    Yes you can leave out the nuts. Aplets and cotlets always have nuts, but
    i've had other varieties that are nutless.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cider Gelatin Salad
    Categories: Jello, Salads
    Yield: 1 Salad

    2 1/2 c Clear cider
    2 tb Gelatin
    1/2 c Celery; finely chopped
    1/4 ts Salt
    1 tb Parsley or green pepper;
    - finely chopped
    2 tb Pimiento; finely chopped

    Soak the gelatin in onchalf cup of the cold cider. Heat the remainder
    of the cider to the boiling point, pour into the gelatin, stir until
    dissolved, drain, and chill. When the gelatin mixture begins to set,
    stir in the vegetables and salt, and pour into individual molds,
    which have been rinsed in cold water. When set turn out on lettuce
    leaves and serve with French or mayonnaise dressing.

    Recipe by Aunt Sammy's Radio Recipes 1931

    Recipe FROM: <https://archive.org/details/auntsammysradior1931unit>

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:24:49
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 28 2025 12:26:34

    ... we donated several net books,
    note books and other small computers to a local drive--helped clean out some of our unused stuff. Steve put a basic internet program on each of them before donating.

    How cool is that! I like reading about old equipment being put to use.

    Here's a link to an article that was posted in FSXNET.

    <https://orato.world/2024/11/25/cybercirujas-bridges-digital- divide-empowers-underserved-communities-with-refurbished-computers/>

    That's known by different names, Jack's Wax is the name I learned for
    it. You have to boil the syrup down to a concentrate for it to work. One
    of my friends in college made it one year; I think she boiled the syrup down to maybe a third of what she started out with--IOW, a gallon was boiled into just a bit over a quart.

    Thanks! I'll file that away in my memory banks for later.

    Sometimes you feel like a nut...

    Hey i remember watching that jingle on broadcast TV when i was a kid...

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    Title: Homemade Mounds Bars
    Categories: Candy, Copycat
    Yield: 1 Batch

    5 oz Sweetened condensed milk
    1 ts Vanilla
    2 c Powdered sugar
    14 oz Flaked coconut
    24 oz Semisweet chocolate chips

    Blend the milk and the vanilla. Add the sugar a little at a time
    until smooth. Stir in the coconut. The mixture should be firm. Pat
    firmly into a 9x13" pan and chill until firm. Cut into bars and dip
    into melted chocolate and let cool on waxed paper for several hours.

    Recipe by cilee@alaska.net

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Saturday, January 31, 2026 10:41:33
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Thu Jan 30 2025 13:39:58

    And it cleared some unused but still good stuff out of our house. Last night I heard Steve talking about Commodore 64 computers with someone on line. We had one for 10 years, rehomed it about 4 years after we
    upgraded to PCs and had orders to move. We had to make a weight
    allowance so rehoming anything like that, that was not being used,
    helped us meet it. Anyway, Steve and the other guy were commiserating
    with each other about getting rid of the C-64, sort of wishing they
    still had them. I don't know if we still have the emulator program that
    we had at one time.

    I know an online musician who runs special software to operate the C=64 as
    a synthesizer. You can see screenshots in the first few pages of the user manuals.

    <https://mssiah.com/files/MSSIAH_MonoSynthesizer.pdf>

    <https://mssiah.com/files/MSSIAH_Bassline.pdf>

    If i were going to emulate a C=64, i'd probably go with VICE.

    <https://vice-emu.sourceforge.io/>

    I remember loading arcade games from cassette tape onto a VIC-20. I also remember two friends playing games on a C=64, and i didn't get as much
    screen time on the C=64 as on the VIC-20. One friend had a floppy drive
    and the other was using cassette tape only. But he was given a HUGE set
    of cassette tapes. Whoever owned that C=64 before him collected a lot!

    For the next time you get significant (clean) snow and have maple syrup
    on hand? We had 1.25" of snow last week, not enough to harvest. Enough
    to shut down the area for a couple of days tho. (G)

    Exactly. So far this winter we had a dusting of snow one day. I happened
    to bicycle through it to a dentist appointment. Sadly for that dentist's business there was not enough snow to make candy in.

    I remember it too. We got our first TV when I was in 4th grade, only one channel. A few years later my dad reworked the lead in (no antenna, just
    a wire from the main line) wire and we got 2 channels. When I came home from college for Easter break, my folks had tied into the NYC cable,
    with one local channel. IIRC, the ads for Almond Joy and Mounds were in
    the days when we got just 2 channels.

    When i was a kid, my parents went without a TV because they thought it was
    a bad influence. But we brought a TV in the house for that VIC-20, and
    slowly began to use it as a TV too. I personally think it was good for me
    to have had limited exposure to media, but i didn't see it that way when i
    was a kid. :-)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: TV Cookies
    Categories: Cookies
    Yield: 1 Batch

    1 c Shortening
    1 c Sugar
    1 c Brown sugar
    2 Eggs; beaten
    1 ts Vanilla
    2 c Flour; sifted
    1 ts Soda
    1/2 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    2 c Quick oatmeal
    2 c Rice Krispies
    1 c Coconut
    1/2 c Nuts

    Cream together shortening and sugars. Add eggs, vanilla, flour, soda,
    baking powder, and salt. Add cereals, coconut, and nuts. Blend and
    drop by spoonfuls on cookie sheet and bake at 350°F.

    Recipe by Randy Rigg

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 15:40:59
    Hi Ben,

    Fido had a belch on Sunday (2/15) and came up with I think all of the
    missing messages I've had over the past month or so, some 1,000 of them.
    I couldn't do anything with my mail because we we were on the road
    Sunday and Monday, coming home from a ham radio event in Orlando. I'll
    do all the replies and send in one upload in the next day or so.

    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sat Feb 01 2025 13:32:27

    using Tandy products, don't remember what one at the time but he'd
    started around 1979 with a TS-80.

    I remember using a TRS-80 in my school library. By that time it was
    the lowest spec'ed computer in the entire school. I guess i was into retro from the get-go.

    They went obsolete almost as soon as they came out.

    On the topic of kitchen equipment motherboard repair, here is a post
    about burning alcohol to fix an iBook back in 2007.

    <http://www.geektechnique.org/projectlab/726/ diy-obsolete-ibook-logic-board-repair.html>

    Don't know if I'd want to try it. Just from your description and the
    header, it sounds a bit suspect.

    And an obligatory radio recipe...


    Title: Steamed Apricot Pudding
    Categories: Puddings
    Yield: 1 Pudding

    Recipe by Aunt Sammy's Radio Recipes 1931

    Pre television days, radio shows were popular--if you lived in an area
    where you could pick up a broadcast. I guess the States were pretty well covered by then, probably with a lot of local stations instead of the
    national ones we have now. We have satellite radio in the truck so we
    can get the same program in NC as we do in AZ when visiting our daughter
    there. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... I am positive that a definite maybe is probably in order.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 15:54:18
    Hi Ben,

    game--how many kids played Pong for hours on end with the family

    I remember seeing an electronic Pong machine at a yard sale. They had
    it hooked up to a TV, so i played it with a friend. So i can write
    that i actually experienced that bit of history.

    I only played it once, never was into computer games, especially
    mindless ones like that. Only game I play on the computer is Solitare.

    We've never had an iBook. Our first PCs were ones Steve cobbled together from various places--

    I've built my share of Frankenpooters. The best thing is getting a
    highly functional computer for a low cost. The worst thing i remember
    off the cuff is using OEM motherboards with non-standard, cost-cutting design decisions and limited availability of documentation and
    drivers.

    Got a phone call once, person doing a survey (and wanting to sell a
    certain system) asking if we had a PC, if so, what brand. I said "Yes
    and the keyboard is a X, the printer is a Y, the monitor is a Z.......";
    I think he was a bit bumfuzzled. (G)

    A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

    Alas, my personal recipe collection doesn't include Ham and Chips.

    Do you do seafood? Fish and Chips?

    Here's a recipe for Granola Pie, which strikes me as ecclectic.


    Title: Granola Pie
    Categories: Pies
    Yield: 1 Pie

    Granola Pastry *

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    1 c Dark corn syrup
    1/2 c Sugar
    1/4 c Brandy
    1/4 c Butter; melted
    3 Eggs
    1 ts Vanilla
    1/4 ts Salt
    2 c Granola
    Sweetened whipped cream

    That does sound good. Don't think I could have gotten my parents to eat
    it; they were very old school. One time my dad bragged he'd not eaten
    yogurt, never intended to. Next time they visited, I made one of our
    favorite desserts--sponge cake, yogurt and strawberries (split the cake,
    add yogurt and strawberries to middle, then top with more). After
    supper, our older daughter (about 4 at the time) asked her grandpa how
    he liked the dessert. He replied that he really liked it to which she
    told him that he'd eaten yogurt. He then pretended to act like he was
    choking, to her amusememt.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Are you sure you really want to know that?

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 17:21:34
    Hi Ben,

    I "attended" that way several times. In the fall, when we
    The last few months tho, we've been working on a merger with another congregation and AFAIK, they don't broadcast/link in their service anywhere.

    How'd drive-in style service treat you?

    Actually our church had enough property that we were able to sit
    outside, tho somewhat scattered, but all within a relatively confined
    space. We also did broadcast over a low power radio station if you did
    want to sit in your vehicle but most of us preferred to sit outside and somewhat mingle. Of the 20 weeks we were outside, it only started to
    rain once, right after services ended so we stayed dry. We also met an
    hour earlier than the normal time so we weren't outside in the heat of
    the day.


    I used to attend a spiritual community in Eugene that gave dharma
    talks. During COVID they set up cameras and a large screen so that
    others
    could attend over the Internet. It was a huge success for the
    community and they grew in size.

    However, i couldn't adjust to it. I did not like being on camera.
    For community, meditation, philosophy, song, etc. i strongly prefer it
    to be a small, in-person group. For me, the Internet sucks the joy
    out of
    that stuff.

    We tend to go for smaller congregations where we get to know more
    people, better. We did join, for a few months until we were transferred elsewhere, a good sized church in TX; IIRC, it had 1,000+/- members and
    a couple of Sunday morning services. Overall, the smaller churches have
    been our norm.

    Title: Bluenose Strawberry Soup

    How did "bluenose" get into the title? I don't see anywhere where it
    would be related to what is in it except maybe the brandy--something
    only affordable to the upper classes? Srawberry season will be coming in
    a few months; I'll consider making this, leaving out the brandy.

    Dave asked the same thing, and the best i could come up with was the following theory:

    The recipe came from a cookbook titled The Strawberry Connection and
    it was in a series of cookbooks that began with The Blueberry
    Connection. My
    guess is that it began as a blueberry recipe and was adapted for strawberries.

    OK, sounds like as good a reason as any. We'll be getting fresh
    strawberries in the next few months; I'll have to check my supply of
    strawberry jam, see if I need to make some this year. My MIL gave me a strawberry pie recipe decades ago that I try to make at least once (if
    not more) during strawberry season.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... History repeats itself because nobody listens ...

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 17:34:27
    Hi Ben,

    Found that their music preference is LOUD so we've been
    sitting in the overflow room to cut the volume level somewhat.

    Sound volume preferences are also a challenge. I used to attend an ecstatic dance in Eugene. When i started, they played a lot of world music. Then after a DJ change, they played a lot of soulless EDM,
    raised the volume about 400%, raised the admission fee, and started selling earplugs at the entrance. Ironically i am hard of earing but
    the sound volume was painful for me. No thanks!

    I'd have been out of there FAST! We went to a wedding a couple of weeks
    ago; at the reception, the table we were assigned to was fairly close to
    the band. It was a bit loud for us but we did stay for about 3 hours,
    leaving so we could continue getting ready for our trip to Florida.


    Sounds logical to me. What other fruits are in the series? Peach would
    be a good one.

    Unfortunately, i could not find The Peach Connection.

    From: <https://nimbus.ca/book-author/beatrice-buszek>

    The Apple Connection
    The Blueberry Connection
    The Strawberry Connection
    The Sugar Bush Connection (Maple Syrup)

    They all sound good to me. We're thinking of heading up to New England
    this spring/summer and intend to restock our maple syrup supply. Also
    want to touch base with a couple we know up there that are serving a
    church plant; we've done several mission trips up there to work with
    them.

    And here's a sweet recipe for you...


    Title: Yogurt Honey Cream Pie
    Categories: Pies
    Yield: 1 Pie


    Recipe by Quaker Oats Wholegrain Cookbook

    I think I have that cook book, got it decades ago and have made the oat
    scones from it too many times to count.


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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 17:43:34
    Hi Ben,

    Are you based in Oregon? That, and North Dakota are the only 2 states
    I've yet to visit. One of these days I'll get to them.

    Yes, i am based in Oregon. I would be game for meeting up if you make
    it out here.

    We've got an 8th grade graduation in AZ and a high school one in Utah
    next year (grandkids) so will be heading out that way. Maybe we'll
    decide to be gone a bit longer and go a bit further west; Oregon is one
    of the 2 states I've never been to.

    We were
    also introduced to maple creemees, a Vermont specialty where maple syrup
    is blended with soft serve ice cream, decadent but yummy.

    I've seen articles about Canada's strategic Maple Syrup Reserve, and sometimes i have difficulty telling whether they are serious. ;)

    It does sound almost too good to be true.

    I'd love to try a maple creemee some day. I've had family and
    friends BC> with ice cream makers, but i've never tried my hand at
    making it BC> myself. I read that it can be easy to do using a mason
    jar in the BC> freezer.

    We have a small ice cream maker, haven't used it in a while but save the
    maple creemees for when we're in Vermont. It's one of those things that
    are best in the area of origin; since NC isn't a maple state, I don't
    expect to find a creemee here. I do expect to find good pork bbq and
    seafood. (G)


    Here's another sweet recipe. We have a seasonal treat made in
    Washington called Applets and Cotlets. It is basically the same thing referred to in The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe (Narnia Book 1)
    as Turkish Delight. If it were me, i'd skip the coloring and add some fruit juice, preserves, etc.

    OK, I wasn't sure what Turkish Delight was. I half thought it was some
    sort of candy like Turkish Taffee; now I know better.


    Title: Turkish Paste (Turkish Delight)
    Categories: Candy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    3 tb Gelatin
    1/2 c Water; cold
    1 lb Sugar
    1/2 c Water; hot
    1/4 ts Salt
    3 tb Lemon juice
    Green coloring
    Mint flavoring
    1 c Nuts; finely chopped


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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 17:52:52
    Hi Ben,

    One of these days, we just might make it. Oregon is one of the states
    our daughter in AZ has mentioned she might want to move to, now that
    she's retired from active duty with the National Guard. She has 2 boys,
    one on the autism spectrum and she mentioned that the state is good for education. Don't know what she was basing that on but...

    From my perspective my educational experience was good, but my
    friend's kids in Eugene had even better, going to charter schools,

    Her boys went to charter schools up until last school year. She retired
    from active duty (Army National Guard) and home schooled them last year,
    not sure if she's still doing it this year.

    until the
    Covid thing. Abruptly shifting to distance learning was hard on them,
    and i personally think that folks aren't aware just how harmful that
    was. I don't know about autism, but a friend of a friend is a teacher
    in Seattle, and she said that nearly 100% of her students have a
    diagnosis of some kind, autism, A.D.D., depression, etc. and that most
    of them are on a prescription of some kind. Some things are better,

    Seems like a lot of kids are on meds these days that our generation had
    to "tough out".

    like classes
    teaching about communication, emotional intelligence, and
    interpersonal skils (wish *I* had learned those as a kid), and some
    things are far
    worse.

    Win some, lose some. I went to a small K-12 school with no AP classes,
    sort of wish there had been the opportunity for some or more electives but..................ended up graduating #12 out of a class of 63.

    moved up to Washington, and knew we could get (and did) creemees in
    Barre, about 15 minutes away.

    Maple syrup poured on soft-serve icecream reminds me of Laura Ingalls
    book Little House In The Woods where they poured maple syrup on the
    snow to harden it into a frozen candy. I'd eat that. :9

    That goes by different names; I first knew it as Jax Wax but have heard
    it called Sugar on Snow, don't remember other names but it is good. You
    have to boil the syrup down really thick--maybe boil a gallon down to a
    quart to make it thick enough to harden quickly. But it is yummy; I can
    tell you that from personal experience.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 18:03:06
    Hi Ben,

    ... we donated several net books,
    note books and other small computers to a local drive--helped clean out some of our unused stuff. Steve put a basic internet program on each of them before donating.

    How cool is that! I like reading about old equipment being put to
    use.

    Helped us clear out some non usable (to us) stuff too. That space has
    been filled (and overflowed now) with ham radio stuff now.


    Sometimes you feel like a nut...

    Hey i remember watching that jingle on broadcast TV when i was a
    kid...

    Same here, tho I've never been a fan of coconut or nuts in most things.
    For a while (maybe 3 years) I found Milky Way bars with a chocolate
    caramel filling, turned out they were made in Canada. Those were really
    good but sadly, no longer available in the States.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 18:13:47
    Hi Ben,

    I remember loading arcade games from cassette tape onto a VIC-20. I
    also remember two friends playing games on a C=64, and i didn't get as

    Steve typed in a lot of the stuff from Compute's Gazatte onto the
    datasette for the first 18 months we had the C-64. Had a tv for the
    monitor, a bit of frustration when I'd want to catch the late news. I'd
    remind him about 9:50 (we were in TX, late news was 10:00) and he'd say
    "just a minute". News would be over, Johnny Carson almost over before
    he'd stop most nights.

    much
    screen time on the C=64 as on the VIC-20. One friend had a floppy
    drive and the other was using cassette tape only. But he was given a
    HUGE set of cassette tapes. Whoever owned that C=64 before him
    collected a lot!

    We didn't collect a lot of tapes; about 18 months after we got the
    computer, Steve used some money from a government travel settlment to
    get a disc drive and monitor.

    For the next time you get significant (clean) snow and have maple
    syrup RH> on hand? We had 1.25" of snow last week, not enough to
    harvest. Enough RH> to shut down the area for a couple of days tho. (G)

    Exactly. So far this winter we had a dusting of snow one day. I
    happened to bicycle through it to a dentist appointment. Sadly for
    that dentist's business there was not enough snow to make candy in.

    He will make up for it at the end of October. One of our local dentists
    pays kids for their candy hauls, then sends the candy to deployed
    troops.

    I remember it too. We got our first TV when I was in 4th grade, only one channel. A few years later my dad reworked the lead in (no antenna, just
    a wire from the main line) wire and we got 2 channels. When I came home from college for Easter break, my folks had tied into the NYC cable,
    with one local channel. IIRC, the ads for Almond Joy and Mounds were in
    the days when we got just 2 channels.

    When i was a kid, my parents went without a TV because they thought it
    was a bad influence. But we brought a TV in the house for that
    VIC-20, and slowly began to use it as a TV too. I personally think it
    was good for me to have had limited exposure to media, but i didn't
    see it that way when i was a kid. :-)

    We got our first one about a year before the JFK assasination; that was
    my first exposure to an extensive news coverage event. Did somewhat know
    about the world beyond our small town because Dad bought the NY Times
    every day.


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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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