• Re: Chooken

    From Dave Drum@1:320/219 to Ruth Haffly on Monday, September 01, 2025 07:06:40
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Probably so. Today, while waiting for a doctor's appointment, I started
    a book I'd downloaded before our big spring trip but never got around
    to reading. It's another Philippa Gregory one, this time about Margaret Pole, cousin to Henry VII.

    I familiar with her name - but never read anyof her swcrivening. I'm
    not much on 15th century settings. Or the machinations of the British Royals.

    My choice, your choice. It's a whole different genre than the Tom
    Clancy books I also like to read.

    Clancy has become too formulaic for my taste. Book Bub offered me a
    deeply discounted Fletcher Knebel that I had not read - so I glommed
    onto it. Nebel, who died in '93 wrote 7 Days In May, The Candidate,
    etc. and many of his works became Hollywoods.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    My "Echomail" database in MealMaster is over 23K recipes - all I have either downloaded or uploaded from/to the echo over the years. My
    Taste of Home base is approaching 6K and the NYT base is over 4K.

    I don't have nearly that many, and never will, because I only grab ones that I'm pretty sure I'll make, sooner or later. The past couple of
    years I've pulled out some I've had for a while and made them up,
    wondered why I didn't try them earlier as they're now keepers.

    Since I post a recipe with every message and the daily "bulk" recipes like the five related to each date's "food" or event and 10 from a
    list of topical recipes ..... like the 40 waiting to be posted as
    "Best of 2025". Even though I already have many of those in my
    archives I still bang in a fair amount of new stuff.

    Most of them I'll go thru, just reading the recipe title. Occaisionally one will catch my eye, like the Marry Me Chicken. Our Auxiliary
    President made a version of it for our July meeting, had enough that I
    was able to bring a box home to share with Steve. It was just as good
    the 2nd time around (for me), first time for Steve. (G)

    Those are the best kind.

    Here's a copykat from a joint you like ...

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    Actually, I like my CFA fairly plain. If I'm getting a sandwich, I'll
    just get a packet of mayo for it; if I'm getting strips, I'll ask for a side of pickles and also get some mayo. Basic but good; I'm not big
    into ketchup or bbq sauce.

    I'm not either. Popeyes offers all manner of goopy sauces for/on its
    chicken wings. Since I generally order on their app I was beginning to
    think I was going to have to pull a gun on someone to get "original"
    spicy wings with no pre-applied sauce. But eventually my (and no doubt
    other) complaints in "feedback" got listed to/read and now "original
    spicy" (or mild) is the first selection.

    Chick Filly has never been one of my go-to places. It's OK but Lee's Famous and Popeyes are better - ofthe fats food chicken joints. Then
    there are Track Shack and Ritz' lil Fryer local to me.

    Only one of the above close to me is Popeyes, and the closest one there
    is in Raleigh, about 12 miles from here. Cook Out just opened a few
    months ago in the old PDQ location; they're famous for 40 some flavors
    of milk shakes (some only seasonal). We tried Cook Out a couple of
    times; they make a pretty decent chicken breast sandwich. It's not
    fried like CFA but good in its own right.

    My nearest Popeyes is about a mile from my house. How does Cook Out do
    their sandwich? Baked? Boiled? Broiled?

    Certainly CF is popular. The local store is on a "out lot" for the
    local maul. The out lots also have a Texas Roadhouse and Mission BBQ.
    But CF isthe one with 2drive-up lanes *alway* so full of hungey diners that the lines back up well into the street. And my mental voice says
    "No way we'll wait that long" Bv)= Fast food my patootie.

    Go inside; you'll get served quicker. With the antennas on the truck,
    we can't go thru the drive up lanes, nor can we when towing the camper. So, it's always inside to order, sometimes eat in, sometimes take home
    and sometimes eat in the camper. But yes, the drive up lines at CFA are always busy. WF got a 2nd store a few years ago; now both of them stay busy.

    I used to do that when I was a regular at Mickey D's. Pull up right outside
    the entry door, go in, get my grub and be on my way home or to work before
    the car that was at the speaker had advanced to the pay-up window.

    Popeyes is currently offering a 3-piece for U$5. Leg, thigh and wing
    is my usual selection. And with a side of coleslaw or mash & gravy
    it's a nice evening meal.

    If it's convenient to you, go for it. I'd probably eat the wing and
    leg, save the thigh for another time, or vice versa, or try to get a breast as one of my choices. But yes, cole slaw on the side.

    It's a rather strange selection. You can get dark meat - leg and thigh with
    the wing making the 3rd piece. Or white meat - breast and two wings. Tuesdays they still do the "Tuesday Special". Sometimes I'll get four of those and do the drumsticks for supper, than do the thighs - two at atime, for two more suppers. Bv)=

    And on Tuesday the drive thru looks like Chick Filly's so I generally park
    and go inside to order.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Copycat Popeyes Chicken Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Breads, Herbs, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 Boned, skinned chicken
    - breasts
    1 1/2 c A-P flour
    1/4 c Baking powder
    2 1/2 ts Salt
    1 3/4 ts MSG (Acent)
    1/2 ts Ground white pepper
    1/4 ts Ground black pepper
    1/4 ts Cayenne pepper; or more
    1/4 ts Garlic powder
    =+OR+=
    1/2 ts Garlic granules
    1 lg Egg; beaten
    1 1/2 c Buttermilk
    Oil for frying
    4 Brioche buns
    4 tb Salted butter; softened
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    12 sl (to 16) dill pickle

    MMMMM----------------------SPICY MAYONNAISE---------------------------
    1/2 ts Hot sauce
    1/2 ts Paprika
    1/4 ts Garlic powder
    1/8 ts Ground cayenne

    In a large bowl, combine 1 cup buttermilk, 2 teaspoons
    salt, and 1 teaspoon MSG and whisk until they're well
    mixed.

    Trim off the thin, tapered end of the chicken and
    butterfly each breast, slicing it in half crosswise to
    create four fillets that are roughly 1/2 inch thick.

    Add the chicken to the brine and cover it with a piece
    of plastic wrap. Place the bowl in the refrigerator for
    four hours.

    Make the breading in a large bowl by combining the
    flour, baking powder, remaining salt, remaining MSG,
    white pepper, black pepper, cayenne pepper, and garlic
    powder.

    In a separate bowl, beat together the egg and
    buttermilk.

    In a large Dutch oven or wok, heat 3" of oil over
    medium-high heat. If you're using an electric tabletop
    fryer, fill the unit to its MAX line. When the oil
    reaches 325ºF/165ºC, reduce the heat to medium-low.

    Remove the chicken from the brine and shake off any
    excess liquid. Dip the brined chicken into the flour
    mixture, pressing it lightly until the flour adheres.
    Dunk the chicken into the egg mixture before returning
    it to the flour mixture, pressing it down firmly into
    the flour. Toss the chicken around in the flour mixture
    a bit to create a craggly, bumpy flour coating.

    Shake off any excess flour and carefully drop the
    chicken into the hot oil. Be careful not to overcrowd
    the fryer. Depending on the size of your fryer, you
    should be able to fry two to four chicken pieces at a
    time.

    Fry the chicken until it's golden brown and crispy on
    all sides, 8 to 10 minutes, and a meat thermometer
    probed to the center of the chicken reads 165ºF/74ºC

    Remove the chicken to a paper towel-lined plate and
    allow the oil to come back up to temperature before
    frying the rest of the chicken.

    Meanwhile, heat a cast iron skillet or saute pan over
    medium-high heat. Butter the insides of each top and
    bottom bun with 1/2 tablespoon of butter. Place the buns
    butter-side down on the skillet and cook until they're
    golden brown and toasted, about 2 minutes.

    Make the sandwiches by coating the bottom and top bun
    with 1/2 tablespoon of mayonnaise. For spicy mayonnaise,
    combine the mayo, hot sauce, paprika, garlic powder, and
    cayenne before spreading it on the bun.

    Add three or four pickles to the bottom bun (optional)
    and top it with the fried chicken. Finish the sandwich
    by placing the top bun on top of the fried chicken.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mashed.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Monday, September 01, 2025 15:11:03
    Hi Dave,

    Probably so. Today, while waiting for a doctor's appointment, I started
    a book I'd downloaded before our big spring trip but never got around
    to reading. It's another Philippa Gregory one, this time about Margaret Pole, cousin to Henry VII.

    I familiar with her name - but never read anyof her swcrivening. I'm
    not much on 15th century settings. Or the machinations of the British Royals.

    My choice, your choice. It's a whole different genre than the Tom
    Clancy books I also like to read.

    Clancy has become too formulaic for my taste. Book Bub offered me a
    deeply discounted Fletcher Knebel that I had not read - so I glommed
    onto it. Nebel, who died in '93 wrote 7 Days In May, The Candidate,
    etc. and many of his works became Hollywoods.

    I've heard of, but not read the books nor seen the movies. IIRC they're
    a spy genre? Clancy passed away in 2013; his books are being written by
    othes now under "...........A Tom Clancy book". Now most of them feature
    Jack Jr or, if not him, some other member of the Campus group he works
    for. Most of them are mediocre but once in a while, one will be pretty
    good. "Fun" part is figuring out which book it will be. (G)

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Since I post a recipe with every message and the daily "bulk" recipes like the five related to each date's "food" or event and 10 from a
    list of topical recipes ..... like the 40 waiting to be posted as
    "Best of 2025". Even though I already have many of those in my
    archives I still bang in a fair amount of new stuff.

    Most of them I'll go thru, just reading the recipe title. Occaisionally one will catch my eye, like the Marry Me Chicken. Our Auxiliary
    President made a version of it for our July meeting, had enough that I
    was able to bring a box home to share with Steve. It was just as good
    the 2nd time around (for me), first time for Steve. (G)

    Those are the best kind.

    The ones to be made multiple times. I finally got the fig cake made
    earlier today. Tipping it out on to a plate was a bit of a mess, tho not
    as bad as it could have been. We'll have the first tasting with supper
    but Steve did taste a bit of what fell off the plate and said it was
    good. We need to look for a rimmed 11" or 12" plate if I'm to make it
    again; the dinner plate just barely held it.

    Here's a copykat from a joint you like ...

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    Actually, I like my CFA fairly plain. If I'm getting a sandwich, I'll
    just get a packet of mayo for it; if I'm getting strips, I'll ask for a side of pickles and also get some mayo. Basic but good; I'm not big
    into ketchup or bbq sauce.

    I'm not either. Popeyes offers all manner of goopy sauces for/on its chicken wings. Since I generally order on their app I was beginning to think I was going to have to pull a gun on someone to get "original"
    spicy wings with no pre-applied sauce. But eventually my (and no doubt other) complaints in "feedback" got listed to/read and now "original spicy" (or mild) is the first selection.

    I'd probably go for the original, mild if I were to get any sort of
    sauce but I usually like the chicken without any sort of sauce. The
    variety of sauces they're getting is soon going to rival Zaxby's which
    is more of a southern chain, tho they do have an outlet in Salt Lake
    City. Saw that on a map of their outlets when we were there a couple of
    weeks ago.


    My nearest Popeyes is about a mile from my house. How does Cook Out do their sandwich? Baked? Boiled? Broiled?

    They're char grilled, with no coating. I've tasted a faint charcoal
    flavor on them.

    Certainly CF is popular. The local store is on a "out lot" for the
    local maul. The out lots also have a Texas Roadhouse and Mission BBQ.
    But CF isthe one with 2drive-up lanes *alway* so full of hungey diners that the lines back up well into the street. And my mental voice says
    "No way we'll wait that long" Bv)= Fast food my patootie.

    Go inside; you'll get served quicker. With the antennas on the truck,
    we can't go thru the drive up lanes, nor can we when towing the camper. So, it's always inside to order, sometimes eat in, sometimes take home
    and sometimes eat in the camper. But yes, the drive up lines at CFA are always busy. WF got a 2nd store a few years ago; now both of them stay busy.

    I used to do that when I was a regular at Mickey D's. Pull up right outside the entry door, go in, get my grub and be on my way home or to work before the car that was at the speaker had advanced to the pay-up window.

    With the camper we either try to avoid the super busy times or, if the
    CFA place is an out property in a mall, park in the mall lot and walk
    over. With the R-Pod, we could park in a double space, have to find
    something a bit bigger now that we have the Grey Wolf and F-150. Not
    quite as convenient as just pull up to the entry door, go in, grab your
    order and head back out but we're pulling our (temporary) home with us.
    (G)

    Popeyes is currently offering a 3-piece for U$5. Leg, thigh and
    wing DD> is my usual selection. And with a side of coleslaw or mash &
    gravy DD> it's a nice evening meal.

    If it's convenient to you, go for it. I'd probably eat the wing and
    leg, save the thigh for another time, or vice versa, or try to get a breast as one of my choices. But yes, cole slaw on the side.

    It's a rather strange selection. You can get dark meat - leg and thigh with the wing making the 3rd piece. Or white meat - breast and two
    wings. Tuesdays they still do the "Tuesday Special". Sometimes I'll
    get four of those and do the drumsticks for supper, than do the thighs
    - two at atime, for two more suppers. Bv)=

    That works. We went to a new to us place yesterday for lunch, The Curry
    House. The tandoori chicken was good, but hot (tomato/cream sauce tamed
    it) and Steve said that in his lamb dish, the meat was tougher than
    expected, also hot. We ended up taking some home (supper tonight) with
    an extra order of garlic naan and the sauce, plus some basmati rice.
    We'll probably go back so we can try some of the other dishes.

    And on Tuesday the drive thru looks like Chick Filly's so I
    generally DD> park and go inside to order.

    Makes sense. They're too far from us to do that on any sort of regular
    basis.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wednesday, September 03, 2025 06:25:51
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Clancy has become too formulaic for my taste. Book Bub offered me a
    deeply discounted Fletcher Knebel that I had not read - so I glommed
    onto it. Nebel, who died in '93 wrote 7 Days In May, The Candidate,
    etc. and many of his works became Hollywoods.

    I've heard of, but not read the books nor seen the movies. IIRC they're
    a spy genre? Clancy passed away in 2013; his books are being written by othes now under "...........A Tom Clancy book". Now most of them
    feature Jack Jr or, if not him, some other member of the Campus group
    he works for. Most of them are mediocre but once in a while, one will
    be pretty good. "Fun" part is figuring out which book it will be. (G)

    That 'splains Clanky becomig formulaic. It's a franchise now. Bv)=

    Knebel wrote some spy/espionage stuff. And a lot of poli-ticks/political intrigue. And apparently, from some of the howls from those whose ox was
    gored, knew where the bodies were buried. Bv)= He was one of those
    authors who got you immersed in the story within a few pages. My sort
    of writer. I'm currently reading "Not This Way" by Blake Pierce - it's
    a sort-of cops 'n bad guys yarn starring a Native American Texas Ranger.
    I'm quite enjoying the way it moves right along, never dawdling over the
    little stuff.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Here's a copykat from a joint you like ...

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    Actually, I like my CFA fairly plain. If I'm getting a sandwich, I'll
    just get a packet of mayo for it; if I'm getting strips, I'll ask for a side of pickles and also get some mayo. Basic but good; I'm not big
    into ketchup or bbq sauce.

    I'm not either. Popeyes offers all manner of goopy sauces for/on its chicken wings. Since I generally order on their app I was beginning to think I was going to have to pull a gun on someone to get "original"
    spicy wings with no pre-applied sauce. But eventually my (and no doubt other) complaints in "feedback" got listed to/read and now "original spicy" (or mild) is the first selection.

    I'd probably go for the original, mild if I were to get any sort of
    sauce but I usually like the chicken without any sort of sauce. The variety of sauces they're getting is soon going to rival Zaxby's which
    is more of a southern chain, tho they do have an outlet in Salt Lake
    City. Saw that on a map of their outlets when we were there a couple of weeks ago.

    We just recently got a Raising Cane's on the out lot of a strip mall in
    front of our Barnes & Nobel - which is the only "new" book outlet in my
    home town. I have yet to try them.

    My nearest Popeyes is about a mile from my house. How does Cook Out do their sandwich? Baked? Boiled? Broiled?

    They're char grilled, with no coating. I've tasted a faint charcoal
    flavor on them.

    Charcoal? Or smoke? If they're a commercial thing and reasonably busy
    I'd be willing to bet that their char-grill is gas or 'lectic for the
    heat with the smoke/charcoal flavouring added by some sort of smoke
    generator.

    Certainly CF is popular. The local store is on a "out lot" for the
    local maul. The out lots also have a Texas Roadhouse and Mission BBQ.
    But CF isthe one with 2drive-up lanes *alway* so full of hungey diners that the lines back up well into the street. And my mental voice says
    "No way we'll wait that long" Bv)= Fast food my patootie.

    Go inside; you'll get served quicker. With the antennas on the truck,
    we can't go thru the drive up lanes, nor can we when towing the camper. So, it's always inside to order, sometimes eat in, sometimes take home
    and sometimes eat in the camper. But yes, the drive up lines at CFA are always busy. WF got a 2nd store a few years ago; now both of them stay busy.

    I used to do that when I was a regular at Mickey D's. Pull up right outside the entry door, go in, get my grub and be on my way home or to work before the car that was at the speaker had advanced to the pay-up window.

    With the camper we either try to avoid the super busy times or, if the
    CFA place is an out property in a mall, park in the mall lot and walk over. With the R-Pod, we could park in a double space, have to find something a bit bigger now that we have the Grey Wolf and F-150. Not
    quite as convenient as just pull up to the entry door, go in, grab your order and head back out but we're pulling our (temporary) home with us. (G)

    I've only done a cramper trip once. Borrowed my brother's pickup truck
    and little trailer and set off for Denver with my GF to visit her aunt
    and uncle. Decided that was not my cuppa tea. If I do something like that
    again I'll drive my car and get a motel room. Ot take the Amtrak and rent
    a ride at my destination.

    Popeyes is currently offering a 3-piece for U$5. Leg, thigh and
    wing is my usual selection. And with a side of coleslaw or mash &
    gravy it's a nice evening meal.

    If it's convenient to you, go for it. I'd probably eat the wing and
    leg, save the thigh for another time, or vice versa, or try to get a breast as one of my choices. But yes, cole slaw on the side.

    They also offer three for U$5 chicken tenders.

    It's a rather strange selection. You can get dark meat - leg and thigh with the wing making the 3rd piece. Or white meat - breast and two
    wings. Tuesdays they still do the "Tuesday Special". Sometimes I'll
    get four of those and do the drumsticks for supper, than do the thighs
    - two at atime, for two more suppers. Bv)=

    That works. We went to a new to us place yesterday for lunch, The Curry House. The tandoori chicken was good, but hot (tomato/cream sauce tamed it) and Steve said that in his lamb dish, the meat was tougher than expected, also hot. We ended up taking some home (supper tonight) with
    an extra order of garlic naan and the sauce, plus some basmati rice.
    We'll probably go back so we can try some of the other dishes.

    That sounds like our local Flavour of India. Their typical lunch buffet has lamb biryani, tandoori chicken, vegetable pakora, curry, etc. And, of course that killer mango I scream.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lamb Biryani
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy, Herbs
    Yield: 8 Servings

    4 Serrano chilies; stemmed
    8 cl Garlic; peeled
    1 (4") pc fresh ginger, peeled
    2 md Yellow onions; peeled,
    - quartered
    2 Roma tomatoes; quartered
    1 c Full-fat yogurt
    1 c Fresh mint leaves
    1 c Fresh cilantro leaves
    1 tb Ground coriander
    1 tb Ground cumin
    1 ts Kashmiri chile powder; more
    - as needed
    1/2 ts Ground turmeric
    1 1/2 ts Salt; more as needed
    3 lb Lamb chops (or lamb shoulder
    - pieces)
    3 (1/2")Indian cinnamon sticks
    +=OR=+
    1 lg Cinnamon stick
    12 Whole black peppercorns
    6 Cloves
    6 Green cardamom pods
    1 tb Garam masala

    MMMMM------------------------FRIED ONIONS-----------------------------
    1 c Neutral oil
    2 Yellow onions; thin sliced
    1/2 ts Salt

    MMMMM----------------------------RICE---------------------------------
    Salt
    3 c Basmati rice

    MMMMM--------------------------ASSEMBLY-------------------------------
    6 tb Whole milk
    1/2 ts Saffron threads
    2 c Mixed fresh cilantro & mint
    - leaves
    6 tb Unsalted butter; sliced

    PREPARE THE LAMB MARINADE: Add the finger chiles, garlic
    and ginger to a food processor and process until finely
    chopped. Add the onions and tomatoes, process until
    smooth, and scrape into a bowl that will hold all the
    lamb and fit in your fridge. Add the yogurt, mint,
    cilantro, coriander, cumin, chile powder, turmeric and
    salt, and stir to combine. Add the lamb to the bowl and
    toss to coat in the marinade, then cover and refrigerate
    overnight.

    PREPARE THE FRIED ONIONS: In a Dutch oven or heavy pot,
    heat the oil over medium. Add the onions, season with
    salt, and saute until browned, stirring occasionally, 25
    to 30 minutes. Using a slotted spoon, transfer fried
    onions to a paper towel-lined plate. Using your hands,
    pull apart the fried onions to separate to prevent them
    from sticking together, and set aside.

    Add the cinnamon, peppercorns, cloves and cardamom to
    the remaining hot oil, and fry over medium until
    fragrant, about 1 minute. Stir in the meat, its marinade
    and 1 cup water, and bring to a simmer over medium heat.
    Cook, stirring occasionally, until the meat is tender
    and the sauce is very thick and dark, about 2 1/2 hours,
    adjusting the heat as needed to maintain a low simmer.
    Stir in the garam masala and taste, adjusting with salt
    and chile powder as needed. Set aside.

    Set the oven @ 350oF/175oC.

    PREPARE THE RICE: Bring a large pot of lightly salted
    water to a boil and add the rice. Stir well and cook for
    3 minutes, transfer to a colander in the sink to drain.
    Run some cool water on top to cool the rice; set aside.

    PREPARE THE SAFFRON MILK FOR ASSEMBLY: Warm the milk in
    a small saucepan over medium heat just until it steams.
    Remove from heat and add the saffron, crumbling it with
    your fingertips as you drop it into the milk. Set aside.

    In a large, heavy, lidded pot, add about a third of the
    meat mixture in an even layer covering the bottom of the
    pot. Sprinkle the meat with a third of the herbs and a
    third of the rice, assembling lightly without packing
    the layers. Drizzle 2 tablespoons saffron milk over the
    rice and add about a third of the fried onions. Build
    two more layers of meat, herbs, rice, saffron milk and
    onions. Top with pats of butter and cover the pot with
    foil.

    Put the lid on the pot of rice, transfer to the oven and
    bake until piping hot, about 1 hour. Let rest for about
    10 minutes, then serve hot, digging all the way to the
    bottom of the pot with the serving spoon. To reheat,
    warm the biryani covered in the oven, or microwave.

    By: Tejal Rao

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Saturday, September 06, 2025 12:33:19
    Hi Dave,


    I've heard of, but not read the books nor seen the movies. IIRC they're
    a spy genre? Clancy passed away in 2013; his books are being written by othes now under "...........A Tom Clancy book". Now most of them

    That 'splains Clanky becomig formulaic. It's a franchise now. Bv)=

    Yes, so I'm re-reading one of his books from the 1990s now.

    of writer. I'm currently reading "Not This Way" by Blake Pierce -
    it's a sort-of cops 'n bad guys yarn starring a Native American Texas Ranger. I'm quite enjoying the way it moves right along, never
    dawdling over the little stuff.

    Not really my cuppa tea.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8


    I'm not either. Popeyes offers all manner of goopy sauces for/on its chicken wings. Since I generally order on their app I was beginning to think I was going to have to pull a gun on someone to get "original"
    spicy wings with no pre-applied sauce. But eventually my (and no doubt other) complaints in "feedback" got listed to/read and now "original spicy" (or mild) is the first selection.

    I'd probably go for the original, mild if I were to get any sort of
    sauce but I usually like the chicken without any sort of sauce. The variety of sauces they're getting is soon going to rival Zaxby's which
    is more of a southern chain, tho they do have an outlet in Salt Lake
    City. Saw that on a map of their outlets when we were there a couple of weeks ago.

    We just recently got a Raising Cane's on the out lot of a strip mall
    in front of our Barnes & Nobel - which is the only "new" book outlet
    in my home town. I have yet to try them.

    We tried a Raising Cain's out in Hawaii; they were in the PX food court. Supposed to be getting one in Raleigh in the not too distant future;
    they are pretty good.


    My nearest Popeyes is about a mile from my house. How does Cook Out do their sandwich? Baked? Boiled? Broiled?

    They're char grilled, with no coating. I've tasted a faint charcoal
    flavor on them.

    Charcoal? Or smoke? If they're a commercial thing and reasonably busy
    I'd be willing to bet that their char-grill is gas or 'lectic for the
    heat with the smoke/charcoal flavouring added by some sort of smoke generator.

    Probably so; we've not been there but twice so not done any sort of
    deeper investigation.

    something a bit bigger now that we have the Grey Wolf and F-150. Not
    quite as convenient as just pull up to the entry door, go in, grab your order and head back out but we're pulling our (temporary) home with us. (G)

    I've only done a cramper trip once. Borrowed my brother's pickup truck
    and little trailer and set off for Denver with my GF to visit her aunt
    and uncle. Decided that was not my cuppa tea. If I do something like
    that again I'll drive my car and get a motel room. Ot take the Amtrak
    and rent a ride at my destination.

    We're not that thrilled with flying any more. Besides, we can sleep in
    our own bed at night (in some rather interesting locations) and go
    places the train can't go to. We can pack a good bit of food in the
    fridge and odd spaces in the camper, plus take a wider variety of
    clothes. In 2018 when we went out west, we packed a lot of summer weight
    stuff but also added winter jackets which we needed when we went to Yellowstone. No need to schlep suitcases as the campers have closets.


    Popeyes is currently offering a 3-piece for U$5. Leg, thigh and
    wing is my usual selection. And with a side of coleslaw or mash &
    gravy it's a nice evening meal.

    If it's convenient to you, go for it. I'd probably eat the wing and
    leg, save the thigh for another time, or vice versa, or try to get a breast as one of my choices. But yes, cole slaw on the side.

    They also offer three for U$5 chicken tenders.

    I'd go for that


    It's a rather strange selection. You can get dark meat - leg and thigh


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Saturday, September 06, 2025 12:44:57
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    with the wing making the 3rd piece. Or white meat - breast and two
    wings. Tuesdays they still do the "Tuesday Special". Sometimes I'll
    get four of those and do the drumsticks for supper, than do the thighs
    - two at atime, for two more suppers. Bv)=

    That works. We went to a new to us place yesterday for lunch, The Curry House. The tandoori chicken was good, but hot (tomato/cream sauce tamed it) and Steve said that in his lamb dish, the meat was tougher than expected, also hot. We ended up taking some home (supper tonight) with
    an extra order of garlic naan and the sauce, plus some basmati rice.
    We'll probably go back so we can try some of the other dishes.

    That sounds like our local Flavour of India. Their typical lunch
    buffet has lamb biryani, tandoori chicken, vegetable pakora, curry,
    etc. And, of course that killer mango I scream.

    We didn't bother with dessert. When we first moved to the area, we found
    a nice little Indian restaurant down in Raleigh. They had a buffet
    option for both the noon and evening meal times--made it nice when we
    had an event we wanted to go to but wanted supper first. They closed so
    this is the first Indian place we've tried since.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:218/700 to Ruth Haffly on Monday, September 08, 2025 04:42:59
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've heard of, but not read the books nor seen the movies. IIRC they're
    a spy genre? Clancy passed away in 2013; his books are being written by othes now under "...........A Tom Clancy book". Now most of them

    That 'splains Clanky becomig formulaic. It's a franchise now. Bv)=

    Yes, so I'm re-reading one of his books from the 1990s now.

    of writer. I'm currently reading "Not This Way" by Blake Pierce -
    it's a sort-of cops 'n bad guys yarn starring a Native American Texas Ranger. I'm quite enjoying the way it moves right along, never
    dawdling over the little stuff.

    Not really my cuppa tea.

    Did I mention that the Ranger is a female? I've finished that volume and
    I waiting for the sequel to appear on my Book Bub listings.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    I'm not either. Popeyes offers all manner of goopy sauces for/on its chicken wings. Since I generally order on their app I was beginning to think I was going to have to pull a gun on someone to get "original"
    spicy wings with no pre-applied sauce. But eventually my (and no doubt other) complaints in "feedback" got listed to/read and now "original spicy" (or mild) is the first selection.

    I'd probably go for the original, mild if I were to get any sort of
    sauce but I usually like the chicken without any sort of sauce. The variety of sauces they're getting is soon going to rival Zaxby's which
    is more of a southern chain, tho they do have an outlet in Salt Lake
    City. Saw that on a map of their outlets when we were there a couple of weeks ago.

    I finally got an order of wings w/no sauce. At 6 wing section for U$5.99
    it was no bargain AFAIAC. Back to the 3 piece for U$5 or the Tuesday deal.

    We just recently got a Raising Cane's on the out lot of a strip mall
    in front of our Barnes & Nobel - which is the only "new" book outlet
    in my home town. I have yet to try them.

    We tried a Raising Cain's out in Hawaii; they were in the PX food
    court. Supposed to be getting one in Raleigh in the not too distant future; they are pretty good.

    8<----- ZIP ----->8

    something a bit bigger now that we have the Grey Wolf and F-150. Not
    quite as convenient as just pull up to the entry door, go in, grab your order and head back out but we're pulling our (temporary) home with us. (G)

    I've only done a cramper trip once. Borrowed my brother's pickup truck
    and little trailer and set off for Denver with my GF to visit her aunt
    and uncle. Decided that was not my cuppa tea. If I do something like
    that again I'll drive my car and get a motel room. Ot take the Amtrak
    and rent a ride at my destination.

    We're not that thrilled with flying any more. Besides, we can sleep in
    our own bed at night (in some rather interesting locations) and go
    places the train can't go to. We can pack a good bit of food in the
    fridge and odd spaces in the camper, plus take a wider variety of
    clothes. In 2018 when we went out west, we packed a lot of summer
    weight stuff but also added winter jackets which we needed when we went
    to Yellowstone. No need to schlep suitcases as the campers have
    closets.

    If I travelled more I might look into a motorhome and tow a small car
    (think Smart or Mini) behins.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Camping Seasoning Mix
    Categories: Herbs, Condiments, Chilies
    Yield: 25 Servings

    1/3 c Salt
    1 tb Paprika
    1 tb Garlic Powder
    2 ts Onion Powder
    1/2 ts Cayenne
    1/2 ts Pepper

    Mix well and store in a double zip-lock bag or a good
    screw-top container. I usually make up 2 or 3 combinations
    when back-packing so that I have seasoning for meats, fish
    or the ubiquitous curry.

    Poster unknown - but, stolen for use by UDD who remembers
    the days in the field on "maneuvers" when the guy with the
    garlic salt was "king" and everybody's friend. Bv)=

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:218/700 to Ruth Haffly on Monday, September 08, 2025 04:42:59
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    That works. We went to a new to us place yesterday for lunch, The Curry House. The tandoori chicken was good, but hot (tomato/cream sauce tamed it) and Steve said that in his lamb dish, the meat was tougher than expected, also hot. We ended up taking some home (supper tonight) with
    an extra order of garlic naan and the sauce, plus some basmati rice.
    We'll probably go back so we can try some of the other dishes.

    That sounds like our local Flavour of India. Their typical lunch
    buffet has lamb biryani, tandoori chicken, vegetable pakora, curry,
    etc. And, of course that killer mango I scream.

    We didn't bother with dessert. When we first moved to the area, we
    found a nice little Indian restaurant down in Raleigh. They had a
    buffet option for both the noon and evening meal times--made it nice
    when we had an event we wanted to go to but wanted supper first. They closed so this is the first Indian place we've tried since.

    I skip the dessert bar at Golden Corral, Pizza Ranch and other buffets.
    But I can't get past that mango I scream at Flavour of India. I'm not
    very concerned about them closing on me as we have3 a fairly substantial
    South Asian population and most of the patrons I see a Flavour are of
    that genotype. So, I'm good until Trump's Gestapo (ICE) shows up and sends
    all to one of their concentration camps.
    .
    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Katami Nigozee Satsabeli (Chicken In Spiced Walnut Paste)
    Categories: Asian, Poultry, Nuts, Chilies
    Yield: 7 Servings

    3 1/2 lb Chicken; in 8 pcs, loose
    - skin & fat discarded
    4 c Water
    1 sm Onion
    1 lg Carrot, halved
    2 Sprigs parsley
    1 ts Salt
    2 c Walnut; shelled
    1/4 c Fresh coriander, chopped
    4 cl Garlic; pressed
    1 ts To 2 ts jalapeno chile;
    - seeded, minced
    3 tb Wine vinegar
    +=OR=+
    1/2 c Fresh pomegranate juice
    Pomegranate seeds; garnish
    - (opt)

    Satsabeli is a salad spiced with hot chilies in a walnut
    paste, intensified with wine vinegar and garlic, standbys in
    Georgian cookery. The salad is traditionally eaten with
    Cornmeal Mush.

    Both hot chilies and corn originated in the Valley of Mexico
    and were taken to Europe by the Spanish in the sixteenth
    century.

    Georgians only use wine vinegar, which is usually made at
    home since almost everyone grows grapes for wine.

    Cook the chicken in the water with the onion, carrot,
    parsley, and salt over low heat for 30 minutes, or until
    tender. Remove the chicken, strain the broth, and reserve 1
    cup.

    Grind the walnuts to a paste, using some of the broth to
    facilitate the grinding. Put the paste a large mixing bowl
    with the coriander, garlic, chile, and vinegar or
    pomegranate juice and enough of the broth to create a salad
    dressing. Mix well.

    Put the chicken on a serving platter and pour the sauce
    over. Garnish with pomegranate seeds when available. Serve
    at room temperature. Serves 6 to 8.

    VARIATION: The satsabeli can be made with 2 whole boneless
    chicken breasts. Follow the same direction as for the whole
    chicken. Cook the whole breasts until tender, cut into
    2-inch cubes and pour the sauce over the chicken.

    Recipe: "Sephardic Cooking" by Copeland Mark -- 600 Recipes
    Created in Exotic Sephardic Kitchens from Morocco to India

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Monday, September 08, 2025 21:28:10
    Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    So, I'm good until Trump's Gestapo (ICE)
    shows up and sends all to one of their concentration camps.

    Ahem. You know better.

    Something less spicy...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cucumber-Mango Salsa
    Categories: None
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 Ripe mango; diced
    1 sm Cucumber; diced (peel on
    -unless you prefer it off)
    1 tb Minced red onion
    1/4 ts Chili powder
    1/4 ts Cumin
    1 tb Seasoned rice vinegar
    1 Lime; Juice of (about 1 tbs)

    Mix all and let sit in refrigerator for about a half hour. Serve over
    grilled fish, or as a side dish to poultry. Posted to Digest
    eat-lf.v097.n194 by Nicki Eger <eger@sled.gsfc.nasa.gov> on Aug 1,
    1997

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Monday, September 08, 2025 12:39:22
    Hi Dave,

    of writer. I'm currently reading "Not This Way" by Blake Pierce -
    it's a sort-of cops 'n bad guys yarn starring a Native American Texas Ranger. I'm quite enjoying the way it moves right along, never
    dawdling over the little stuff.

    Not really my cuppa tea.

    Did I mention that the Ranger is a female? I've finished that volume
    and I waiting for the sequel to appear on my Book Bub listings.

    No, you hadn't mentioned that, but it's still not the genre I enjoy
    reading.


    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    I finally got an order of wings w/no sauce. At 6 wing section for
    U$5.99 it was no bargain AFAIAC. Back to the 3 piece for U$5 or the Tuesday deal.

    The latter sounds like a much better deal. Do they offer it every week?



    We just recently got a Raising Cane's on the out lot of a strip mall
    in front of our Barnes & Nobel - which is the only "new" book outlet
    in my home town. I have yet to try them.

    We tried a Raising Cain's out in Hawaii; they were in the PX food
    court. Supposed to be getting one in Raleigh in the not too distant future; they are pretty good.

    8<----- ZIP ----->8

    something a bit bigger now that we have the Grey Wolf and F-150. Not
    quite as convenient as just pull up to the entry door, go in, grab your order and head back out but we're pulling our (temporary) home with us. (G)

    I've only done a cramper trip once. Borrowed my brother's pickup truck
    and little trailer and set off for Denver with my GF to visit her aunt
    and uncle. Decided that was not my cuppa tea. If I do something like
    that again I'll drive my car and get a motel room. Ot take the Amtrak
    and rent a ride at my destination.

    We're not that thrilled with flying any more. Besides, we can sleep in
    our own bed at night (in some rather interesting locations) and go
    places the train can't go to. We can pack a good bit of food in the
    fridge and odd spaces in the camper, plus take a wider variety of
    clothes. In 2018 when we went out west, we packed a lot of summer
    weight stuff but also added winter jackets which we needed when we went
    to Yellowstone. No need to schlep suitcases as the campers have
    closets.

    If I travelled more I might look into a motorhome and tow a small car (think Smart or Mini) behins.

    We prefer to tow the camper but have seen quite a few motorhomes with a
    vehicle in tow. That's what Steve's parents did for a number of years;
    my parents never got beyond tent camping. They gave that up when all of
    us kids were either married or had summer jobs and went the fly/drive
    route.


    Title: Camping Seasoning Mix
    Categories: Herbs, Condiments, Chilies
    Yield: 25 Servings

    Thanks, I'm going to mix this up and keep it in the spice cabinet for
    home use as well. We grill a lot (not quite year round) and it's always
    fun to try a new seasoning for the burgers, chicken or what have you. A
    small bottle may go in the camper too; we have a small spice rack in
    there. One of the jars we keep in there is an equal mix of parsley,
    oregano and basil; in my usual Italian sauce mix, I use all 3 so for
    travel, it's easier to have a pre mix than to carry 3 separate jars.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Monday, September 08, 2025 12:54:32
    Hi Dave,

    That sounds like our local Flavour of India. Their typical lunch
    buffet has lamb biryani, tandoori chicken, vegetable pakora, curry,
    etc. And, of course that killer mango I scream.

    We didn't bother with dessert. When we first moved to the area, we
    found a nice little Indian restaurant down in Raleigh. They had a
    buffet option for both the noon and evening meal times--made it nice
    when we had an event we wanted to go to but wanted supper first. They closed so this is the first Indian place we've tried since.

    I skip the dessert bar at Golden Corral, Pizza Ranch and other
    buffets. But I can't get past that mango I scream at Flavour of India.

    If we were in the area and frequented Flavour of India, I think we would
    grab our share of the mango ice cream as well. (G) Don't know about the
    other places; it would depend on what was being offered.


    I'm not
    very concerned about them closing on me as we have3 a fairly
    substantial South Asian population and most of the patrons I see a
    Flavour are of
    that genotype. So, I'm good until Trump's Gestapo (ICE) shows up and
    sends all to one of their concentration camps.

    Morrisville (just west of Raleigh) has a good sized Indian population so
    if we wanted some Indian food, we'd probably head that way. I've seen a
    few in Raleigh, usually in strip malls.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Tuesday, September 09, 2025 16:58:08
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Sorry 'bout that. Sometimes my fingers lead a life of their own

    Mine do also.

    2 tb Chopped fresh ginger root
    1/4 c Chopped fresh cilantro
    2 Serranos; diced

    All good sources of zip. I do like cilantro as I do not have the
    genetic predisposition of the "soapy" cilantro taste.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Steak 'n Mushrooms
    Categories: Steak, Beef
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Sirloin steak
    2 lb Mushroom caps
    6 tb Butter
    6 tb Olive oil
    1 Garlic clove, chopped
    3 tb Parsley, chopped

    Heat in skillet butter and oil. Add mushroom caps and saute' about 3
    minutes. Add garlic and cook until tender. Sprinkle parsley and
    season to taste with salt and pepper. You may wish to add a dash of
    worcestershire sauce or sherry. Serve over steak.

    From Gemini's MASSIVE MealMaster collection at www.synapse.com/~gemini

    MMMMM

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