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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to FidoNews Robot on Monday, October 28, 2024 12:35:20
    Amazing ...

    Janis Kracht - June 14 1991 - October 21st 2024
    Ward Dossche - 2:292/854

    ... I'm the only one having written something about Janis ??

    \%/@rd

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Monday, October 28, 2024 14:16:08
    Ward Dossche -> FidoNews Robot skrev 2024-10-28 11:35:
    .. I'm the only one having written something about Janis ??

    One would think that her own "constituency" should know her best and at least write a short piece to commemorate her, but obviously not.

    Saddening to witness.


    --

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Björn Felten on Monday, October 28, 2024 08:33:21
    Bj”rn Felten wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

    .. I'm the only one having written something about Janis ??

    One would think that her own "constituency" should know her best and
    at least write a short piece to commemorate her, but obviously not.

    Assuming your snide remark is referring to Z1 people...

    I was in FidoNet in the early/mid 90's for a few years, and am again now
    for the last 6 years or so. I didn't know Janis, then or now. So how
    could I make any comments to "commemorate" her?

    How many people currently in FidoNet, were also here (continuously)
    since the 90's? Yes, there are some, but I bet you can count them on
    your fingers only, without needing to use your toes. Even of those
    people, unless they have served as a *C of some kind, how many would be
    likely to actually know her? That's right....

    As I said above, I did not know her, but have heard/read some about her
    in recent times (even before her passing). Certainly she was a
    prominent figure in the world of FidoNet, and I'm sorry she's gone, but
    that's about all I can say.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Bj÷rn Felten on Monday, October 28, 2024 07:48:00
    Björn Felten wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

    One would think that her own "constituency" should know her best and
    at least write a short piece to commemorate her, but obviously not.

    Saddening to witness.

    We've been doing that - on Facebook, where her family can read the kind
    words people have for her. and here, on FN_SYSOP.




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  • From Greg Nesbitt@1:229/200 to Ward Dossche on Monday, October 28, 2024 10:47:32
    Re: FidoNews 41:44 [01/07]: General Articles
    By: FidoNews Robot to All on Mon Oct 28 2024 00:04:58

    I will miss Janis, maybe no one believes it, but the relationships
    between Fido people are of a unique character that you don't find
    in other computer realms. It's truly a community. We have fought
    so often that you know the other. And then suddenly she is gone.

    That really says it all.

    Great article Ward.

    Greg
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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Monday, October 28, 2024 21:41:04
    Dan Clough -> Bj”rn Felten skrev 2024-10-28 14:33:
    Assuming your snide remark is referring to Z1 people...

    No, Mr. Xenophobic Troll, Janis' constituency was the entire Fidonet.

    The only person who paid the respect in our constituency publication that she had earned was not of the "Z1 people". Not even her successor as Z1C. Go figure.


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Greg Nesbitt on Monday, October 28, 2024 22:09:43
    Greg,

    Great article Ward.

    Thank you sir. When all is said and done, then all is said and done.

    Let's just keep an honest memory of someone who at some moment played an important role in this hobby of ours. I hope she would have liked her own obituary.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Björn Felten on Monday, October 28, 2024 20:46:14
    Bj”rn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    The only person who paid the respect in our constituency publication that she had earned was not of the "Z1 people". Not even her successor
    as Z1C. Go figure.

    Didn't see anything of that nature from *YOU*, either, you fuckin
    hypocrite dipshit.

    Quit being a whiny little bitch, and start to realize that the Snooze
    has no actual respect anymore, because of the way *YOU* have let it
    degenerate into a cesspool. Maybe it did in Janis' day, but you've
    ruined it.



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Kurt Weiske on Tuesday, October 29, 2024 13:51:02
    Kurt Weiske -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-10-28 15:48:
    Saddening to witness.

    We've been doing that - on Facebook, where her family can read the kind words people have for her. and here, on FN_SYSOP.

    Some two-liner comments do not qualify as obituaries.

    In Fidonet, we have a long tradition of respecting our fallen heroes. They are not "losers and suckers" here. From the top of my head, I remember:

    Roy Witt (FNEWSW12)
    Joe Delahay (FNEWSY40)
    Bob Seaborn (FNEWSZ03)
    Robert Bashe (FNEWSZ50)
    Robert Nelson ((FNEWTA37)

    And finally, two and a half years ago:

    Holger Granholm http://eljaco.se/files/fnews/FNEWTD07.ZIP

    ... where we contacted the family and even got a great article from his son. The ZC, the RC, the NC, and other sysops that had contacts with him contributed.

    His family asked for a copy of the Fidonews issue.

    This deteriorating respect is what saddens me. YMMV

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Björn Felten on Tuesday, October 29, 2024 14:37:28
    Bjorn,

    Roy Witt (FNEWSW12)
    Joe Delahay (FNEWSY40)
    Bob Seaborn (FNEWSZ03)
    Robert Bashe (FNEWSZ50)
    Robert Nelson ((FNEWTA37)

    * Clay Tanacore
    * Fr. Lee McColloster
    * Helmut Hullen
    * Doug Meyers
    * Goran Eriksson

    ... there are more ...

    There was a special article about the people we lost during the 2004 Christmas tsunami in South-East Asia and who vanished into the nothingness of the Indian Ocean without a trace ...

    This deteriorating respect is what saddens me. YMMV

    Yes, I'm kinda proud of the nice things I could write about some of the people that without a serious reason at all opposed me.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Wednesday, October 30, 2024 09:46:38
    Dan Clough -> Bj”rn Felten skrev 2024-10-29 02:46:
    because of the way *YOU* have let it
    degenerate into a cesspool.

    Coming from an empathyless gimme-gimme-type of person from a society where tens of millions claim that Kamala Harris has let the USA degenerate into a cesspool, I take that as a compliment.

    Thank you.


    --

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Bj÷rn Felten & Dan Clough on Thursday, October 31, 2024 09:56:17
    Hello Björn & Dan!

    30 Oct 24 09:46, Björn Felten wrote to Dan Clough:

    [...]

    So where are you actually heading for? It is pretty clear for years now that "conversation" between both of you does not work. I don't know why you are still trying to find out who might have the last word (or rather insult). A long time ago in the schoolyard this stuff was usually ended by the school bell, do you remember? Sorry to see you have nothing better in mind to spend your time on.


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Gerrit Kuehn on Thursday, October 31, 2024 23:53:06
    Gerrit Kuehn -> Bj”rn Felten & Dan Clough skrev 2024-10-31 09:56:
    I don't know why you are still trying to find out who might have the
    last word

    I'm sorry, but I can't allow someone to call the ezine, that just published the nicest obituary about one of our most prominent Fidonet officers, a cesspool, being that last word.

    Sorry to see you have nothing better in mind to spend your time on.

    You mean like spending hours each week for almost 24 years now, making sure that the Fidonews comes out like clockwork?


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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Björn Felten on Thursday, October 31, 2024 20:13:21
    Bj”rn Felten wrote to Gerrit Kuehn <=-

    Gerrit Kuehn -> Bj”rn Felten & Dan Clough skrev 2024-10-31 09:56:

    Sorry to see you have nothing better in mind to spend your time on.

    You mean like spending hours each week for almost 24 years now,
    making sure that the Fidonews comes out like clockwork?

    LOL, hours each week? Hahahaha. You must be forgetting that 90+% of
    the "issues" are the same old tired boilerplate text with absolutely
    ZERO change from the previous issue. Even the YEARS-obsolete info and
    the numerous dead links don't get changed.

    If you don't have the assembly of that boilerplate text and the posting
    to the echo scripted/automated by now, you're even dumber than I
    thought; which almost doesn't seem possible.



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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Bj÷rn Felten on Friday, November 01, 2024 09:31:42
    Hello Björn!

    31 Oct 24 23:53, Björn Felten wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

    I'm sorry, but I can't

    You don't want to.

    You mean like spending hours each week for almost 24 years now,
    making sure that the Fidonews comes out like clockwork?

    I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Dan Clough on Friday, November 01, 2024 09:34:08
    Hello Dan!

    31 Oct 24 20:13, Dan Clough wrote to Björn Felten:

    to the echo scripted/automated by now, you're even dumber than I
    thought; which almost doesn't seem possible.

    Having trouble to hear the bell?


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Björn Felten on Friday, November 01, 2024 10:17:32
    Hello Bj”rn!

    28 Oct 24 21:41, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    Wow, someone told me about *the new fidonet*, man seeing it with my own eyes.

    Dan Clough -> Bj”rn Felten skrev 2024-10-28 14:33:
    Assuming your snide remark is referring to Z1 people...

    No, Mr. Xenophobic Troll, Janis' constituency was the entire
    Fidonet.

    The only person who paid the respect in our constituency
    publication that she had earned was not of the "Z1 people". Not even
    her successor as Z1C. Go figure.


    --

    Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes the reason is you're stupid
    and make bad decisions.

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    David


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  • From Daniel Path@2:371/52 to Ward Dossche on Friday, November 01, 2024 21:58:41
    Hello Ward,

    28 Oct 24 12:35, you wrote to FidoNews Robot:

    Janis Kracht - June 14 1991 - October 21st 2024
    Ward Dossche - 2:292/854

    ... I'm the only one having written something about Janis ??

    i didn't knew her, but thanks for this small snapshot Ward.

    Regards,
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