• FidoNews 42:14 [00/06]: The Front Page

    From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Monday, April 07, 2025 00:44:06
    The F I D O N E W S Volume 42, Number 14 07 Apr 2025 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
    | |The newsletter of the | | |
    | | FidoNet community. | | Netmail attach to (POTS): |
    | | Est. 1984 | | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-960447) |
    | | ____________| | |
    | | / __ | Netmail attach to (BinkP): |
    | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:203/0 |
    | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | |
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    | |__U__| / \// | Publisher: Bj”rn Felten |
    | ______ _//|| _\ / | |
    | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. |
    | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+


    Table of Contents
    1. LIST OF FIDONET IPV6 NODES ............................... 1
    List of IPv6 nodes ....................................... 1
    2. JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST .................................... 4
    The Johan Billing JamNNTPd project ....................... 4
    3. FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ...................... 5
    4. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 13
    Nodelist Stats ........................................... 13
    5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 15
    How to Submit an Article ................................. 15
    Credits, Legal Information, Availability ................. 17

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  • From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Monday, April 07, 2025 00:44:06
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    LIST OF FIDONET IPV6 NODES =================================================================

    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 23 Mar 2025


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Freedom f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo/Delta f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH
    8 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Native Spectrum f
    9 2:203/2 Bjorn Felten T-6in4 he.net 6DWN HOLD
    10 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f INO4
    11 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    12 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov T-6in4 he.net f
    13 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    14 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 IP4Market
    15 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native CZ-IJC-20071015
    16 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    17 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    18 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    19 3:770/1 Paul Hayton Native VETTA
    20 3:770/100 Paul Hayton Native VETTA
    21 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native ER-Telecom f
    22 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    23 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    24 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    25 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    26 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    27 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    28 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    29 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Layer7 Networks
    30 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    31 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    32 2:240/5413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    33 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    34 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    35 2:5020/1042 Stas Mishchenkov T-6-in4 he.net f OO
    36 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    37 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    38 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 IP4Market f
    39 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native KPN
    40 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    41 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f OO
    42 2:5101/1 Andrey Ignatov Native HETZNER
    43 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net f
    44 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    45 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    46 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native SAGE-SU-V6
    47 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus
    48 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    49 2:5053/400 Alexander Kruglikov Native FirstVDS f
    50 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    51 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    52 2:240/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    53 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    54 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    55 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native OVH
    56 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US f
    57 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    58 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers f
    59 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    60 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    61 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    62 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    63 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass Native DTAG f
    64 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f INO4 O
    65 2:5030/3165 Serg Podtynnyi Native DIGITALOCEAN
    66 2:301/812 Benoit Panizon Native WOODYV6
    67 1:229/616 Vasily Losev Native GIGEPORT
    68 2:301/113 Alisha Stutz T-6in4 he.ne
    69 1:153/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms
    70 1:218/840 Morgan Collins Native Linode
    71 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native HURRICANE-IPV6-24
    72 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Vodafone
    73 2:280/2040 Leo Barnhoorn Native KPN f
    74 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    75 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    76 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US
    77 2:301/1 Alisha Stutz Native CH-DATAWIRE
    78 2:5035/63 Vladimir Goncharov Native RFEIV6NET
    79 2:5020/290 Andrew Kolchoogin T-6in4 he.net
    80 1:214/22 Ray Quinn T-6in4 he.net
    81 2:5030/49 Sergey Myasoedov Native FR-VIRTUA-SYSTEMS
    82 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DIGITALOCEAN
    83 1:103/705 Rob Swindell Native Spectrum f
    84 1:135/395 Charles Blackburn Native Charter Comms
    85 1:134/303 Travis Mehrer Native Shaw Comms
    86 2:5057/19 Max Vasilyev Native ER-Telecom f
    87 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin Native RUWEB f
    88 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC
    89 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 IP4Market f
    90 2:550/278 Vladislav Muschinskikh Native FirstByte
    91 2:5010/278 Vladislav Muschinskikh T-6in4 he.net f
    92 2:240/5411 Stephan Gebbers Native DTAG
    93 2:5020/715 Alex Barinov T-6in4 he.net f
    94 1:16/201 Sergey Myasoedov Native Amazon
    95 1:104/117 Vitaliy Aksyonov Native LLC
    96 2:5030/1340 Dmitry Afanasiev T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET
    97 2:221/360 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    98 2:5031/25 Alex Kazankov Native VDSINA
    99 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo Native Claro
    100 2:280/2050 Floris van Unen Native Azure
    101 2:280/2060 Dennis Slagers Native Ziggo f
    102 2:467/4 Ruslan Suleimanov T-6in4 he.net
    103 2:467/888 Ruslan Suleimanov T-6in4 he.net f
    104 1:266/625 Scott Street Native Verizon
    105 2:5020/5452 Alex Barinov T-6in4 he.net
    106 2:5030/723 Alexey Khromov Native RU-AI-20240222
    107 3:633/2744 Deon George Native EXETEL-AU
    108 4:930/1 David Gonzalez Native EPMNET
    109 3:633/267 Andrew Clarke Native widebandnetv6 OO


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    Example: ::f1d0:2:280:5555 (for node 2:280/5555)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    HOLD The node is temporarely off-line. Mail may be routed.
    DOWN This node is Down for both IPv4 and IPv6 and will be
    removed from this list if the condition pertains.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    Submitted on day 096


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    JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST =================================================================

    The Johan Billing JamNNTPd project

    This is a list of known JamNNTPd servers working. They are essentially
    the modern version of Bulletin Board Systems.

    You connect to them using the newsreader of your choice and you don't
    need any other software installed on your computer -- regardless of
    operating system -- but that favourite mail client of yours.

    Even smart phones can handle this, giving you the opportunity to get
    your daily doses of fidonet on the bus, tram or train on the way to
    your job, school or whatever.


    Updated 2023-09-06


    URL news://eljaco.se:4119
    Join http://fidonews.eu
    NETMAIL Yes, 2:203/2

    URL nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi
    Join https://news.fidonet.fi
    NETMAIL Yes, 2:221/360

    URL nntp://fidonews.mine.nu
    URL nntps://fidonews.mine.nu
    Join http://fidonews.mine.nu
    NETMAIL Yes, 2:221/6

    URL nntp://news.bytemuseum.org
    nntps://news.bytemuseum.org (secure)
    Join Info in group +ACCCESS&SUPPORT+
    NETMAIL Yes, 1:19/10

    URL nntp://news.pharcyde.org
    Join Info in group, +GETACCESS+
    NETMAIL Yes, 1:154/10


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  • From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Monday, April 07, 2025 00:44:06
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    FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING =================================================================



    =================================================================
    FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
    =================================================================

    BBS Software List

    Updated 2025-03-27

    Maintained by Andrew Leary (1:320/219)
    Editors Emeritus: Robert Couture, Janis Kracht,
    Sean Dennis

    M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal
    P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility #=Info
    F=TIC/SRIF Processor

    *=Software is available and may be registerable,
    but no longer supported or updated.

    @=Website is operating but is no longer updated.

    ?=Software's updating/support status is unknown.

    O=Software is open source.

    This list contains BBS-related software that is available
    for registration (not necessarily supported), open source
    software and actively developed/supported software by its
    author. Software listed may be available for DOS, Linux,
    OS/2 (eComStation), Windows (16 or 32 bit) and OSX.

    .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -.
    |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node|
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    ==> FRONT-END/INTERNET MAILERS

    Argus |MI*? |http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products
    | | /argus/
    | | v3.210 on 2001-03-29

    Binkleyforce |MI |https://prj.zxalexis.ru/gitea
    | | /zx/bforce 2:5030/723
    Alexey Khromov | | zx@zxalexis.ru
    | | v0.25.3 on 2024-07-05


    BinkleyTerm XE |MO* |http://btxe.sourceforge.net
    | | 2.60XE Beta-XH7 on 2000-10-22

    BinkD |MI? |http://binkd.grumbler.org
    | | gul@gul.kiev.ua 2:463/68
    | | v.1.0.4
    | | v.1.1a-115 (alpha)
    | | ftp://cvs.happy.kiev.ua/pub/fidosoft
    | | /mailer/binkd/
    | |http://www.filegate.net/r50/aftnbinkd/

    D'Bridge |MTCPE|http://www.dbridgemailer.com
    |I | support@dbridgemailer.com 1:1/130
    Nick Andre | | v4.00 on 2024-11-12

    FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.datenbahn.dd-dns.de/
    | | cdp/fp_deluxe/
    | | v2.4 on 2003-09-26

    FrontDoor |MITPC|https://defsol.com 2:201/4609
    Definite Solutions |E | defsol@defsol.se
    Joaquim Homrighausen| | FrontDoor v24.01 on 2024-12-20
    | | FrontDoor/2 v24.01 on 2024-12-22

    InterMail |MCPE |http://www.Intermail.net 1:106/201
    Dale Barnes | | dalebarnes42@majik.net
    | | IM v2.60 on 2017-08-28

    Husky Project |MTPUI|http://husky.sourceforge.net/
    |EO? | v1.9 RC2 on 2010-04-20

    Taurus |MI |http://www.fidotel.com/public/forums/
    (based on Radius) |? | taurus/index.htm
    | | v5.0 on 2006-06-12
    | |

    T-Mail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru (Russian only)
    |? | v2608 on 2001-12-12

    AfterShock |MTEI |https://play.google.com/store/apps/
    Asvcorp | | details?id=com.asvcorp.aftershock
    Anatoly Vdovichev | | rudi.timmermans@mailfence.com
    Rudi Timmermans | | v1.7.1 on 2022-11-30 2:292/140

    HotDogEd |E |https://play.google.com/store/apps/
    Sergey Pushkin | | details?id=com.pushkin.hotdoged
    | | v2.13.5 on 2017-03-13 2:5020/2141

    HotDogEd FidoNet |MTI |https://play.google.com/store/apps/
    Provider | | details?id=com.pushkin.hotdoged.fido
    Sergey Pushkin | | v2.13.5 on 2017-03-13 2:5020/2141

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    MAIL TOSSERS

    Crashmail II |TO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/
    | | crashmail.html

    FastEcho |T |http://www.softeq.de/old/Products
    | | /FastEcho/fastecho.html
    | | v1.46.1 on 2007-11-13
    | | Registration keys are free & available
    | | by request from the author

    Fidogate |TUI? |http://www.fidogate.org
    | | v4.4.10 on 2004-08-27
    | |

    FMail |TO |https://sourceforge.net/projects/fmail/
    | | v2.3.1.0 on 2024-03-30 2:280/464

    InterEcho |T |http://www.Intermail.net 1:220/60
    Dale Barnes | | dalebarnes42@majik.net
    | | IE 1.20 on 2017-08-28

    JetMail: JetSys |TU |
    (ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on 2000-01-01

    Squish |T* |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/
    | | v1.11R2 on 2009-01-01
    | | Source code available in Maximus BBS
    | | archive: http://maximus.sourceforge.net


    WWIVToss |T |http://www.weather-station.org/wwiv/
    | | v1.51 on 2015-05-23

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    BBS SOFTWARE

    BBBS |BICTM|http://www.bbbs.net 2:222/2
    | | b@bbbs.net
    | | v4.01 on 2007-01-28

    EleBBS |BO*? |http://www.elebbs.com
    | | v0.10.RC1 on 2002-06-09

    Enthral BBS |B |http://enthralbbs.com
    Linux/BSD/OSX | | v0.429/Alpha on 2010-10-14
    | | Fidonet filebone SCENEENT

    Ezycom BBS |BT* |http://www.ezycom-bbs.com
    | | v2.15g2 on 2009-11-16

    GT Power |B |http://www.gtpowerbbs.com/
    | | v19.00

    Hermes II Project |BT |http://www.hermesbbs.com/
    Macintosh-based | | malyn@strangegizmo.com
    | | v3.5.10b3

    Maximus BBS |BO* |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/
    | | v3.03
    | | Source code available at:
    | | http://maximus.sourceforge.net/

    MBSE BBS |BMTFI|https://sourceforge.net 1:1/119
    |PO | /projects/mbsebbs
    | | ajleary@sourceforge.net
    | | v1.1.1 on 2025-03-27

    Meltdown BBS |UIO |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
    | | v1.0b on 2004-04-26

    Mystic BBS |BMTCE|http://www.mysticbbs.com
    |I | v1.12 A48 on 2023-01-15

    NiKom BBS (Amiga) |BO |http://www.nikom.org
    | | v2.3.1 on 2017-07-01

    RemoteAccess BBS |B? |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120
    | | bfmorse@rapro.com
    | | v2.62.2SW on 2000-10-25

    Renegade BBS |B |http://renegadebbs.info 1:129/305
    | | v1.33/DOS on 2023-05-05

    Spitfire BBS |B? |http://www.buffalocrk.com/
    | | mdwoltz@buffalocrk.com
    | | v3.7 on 2010-01-01

    Synchronet BBS |BMTIO|https://www.synchro.net 1:103/705
    Rob Swindell | |https://wiki.synchro.net
    | | v3.20d on 2025-03-03

    Telegard BBS |B* |
    | | v3.09g2-sp4/mL on 1999-12-19

    WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
    Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com
    Xpress: Santronics | |
    Software, Inc. | | v8.0 AUP 454.12 on 2021-05-14

    WWIV BBS |B |http://www.wwivbbs.org
    | | v5.6.1 on 2021-04-23

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    TIC PROCESSORS/FILEFIX/SRIF

    Allfix |FIUT |http://www.allfix.com/ 1:218/720
    Ken Johnson | | v6.1.0 on 2019-02-02

    NEF/pk |F |http://nefpk.8m.com/
    | | v2.45b2 on 2000-03-05

    TinyTIC |FO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net
    | | /tinytic.html

    VIReq |FO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net
    | | /vireq.html

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    BBS DOORS/UTILITIES

    Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net/cheepware.html
    Sean Dennis | | sysop@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200
    | | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE

    DDS (Doorware |D@ |http://www.doorgames.org
    Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org
    Ruth Argust | |

    Jibben Software |D* |http://www.jibbensoftware.com/
    | | bbs-door-games.cfm
    | | scott@jibben.com
    | | 1995-99 Release dates

    John Dailey Software |DU |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com

    Shining Star |D* |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
    | | nannette@shiningstar.net
    | | Doors are registerable via website

    Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
    Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com
    | | Tel: (404) 256-9518

    T1ny's Software |DU |http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/tsoft/
    Shawn Highfield | | shighfield@gmail.com 1:229/452
    | | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE

    The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
    | | stanley@brainex.com
    | | 1994-99 Releases

    Trade Wars |D* |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
    | | jpritch@eisonline.com
    | | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002

    Vagabond Software |DU* |http://vbsoft.dhakota.org
    | | d@dhakota.org
    | | Last update: 2008-04-11

    WWIVEdit |DE |http://www.weather-station.org/wwiv/
    | | v3.0 on 2011-06-27

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    ==> POINT SOFTWARE

    APoint |PI |https://stargate.org.uk/apoint/
    | | v1.25 on 2001-12-12 (Win32)
    | | Needs the binkD Toolkit for Fido-over-IP
    | | which is available from the above URL.

    CrossPoint |P |http://www.crosspoint.de
    | | pm@crosspoint.de
    | | v3.12d on 1999-12-22 (DOS, Shareware)

    FreeXP |PO |http://www.freexp.de
    | | support@freexp.de
    | | v3.42 on 2020-09-25 (DOS)

    OpenXP |PIO |https://sourceforge.net/projects/openxp5/
    | | v5.0.64 on 2025-02-17
    | | (Win32, Linux(64-Bit})

    WinPoint |PI |http://www.winpoint.org/
    | | Tim Schattkowsky 2:240/1120.29
    | | v415.0 on 2023-02-17 (Win32)

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    SYSOP MAIL EDITORS

    GoldEd+ |EO |http://golded-plus.sourceforge.net/
    | | v1.1.5 (Snapshot) on 2023-02-14
    | | NOTE: Unstable versions released often

    gossipEd |EO |https://github.com/askovpen/gossiped
    | | v2.1.0 on 2025-02-05

    SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de 2:2476/493
    | | v1.15 on 1999-12-15
    | | Website is in German and English

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    INTERNET UTILITIES

    Ifmail |UIO |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
    | | crosser@average.org

    Internet Rex |UI? |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
    | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806
    | | v2.29 on 2001-10-21

    JamNNTPd |UIO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net
    | | /jamnntpd.html

    Luckygate |UO | ftp://happy.kiev.ua/pub/fidosoft/gate
    | | /lgate
    | | gul@gul.kiev.ua

    MakeNL |UO |http://makenl.sourceforge.net
    | | v3.5.0 on 2019-05-06

    PLMake |UOP |https://sourceforge.net/projects
    | | /plmake 2:280/464
    | | v2.1 beta on 2024-11-01

    ErrFlags |UO |http://sourceforge.net/projects
    | | /errflags 2:280/464
    | | v3.0.0 on 2023-02-21

    RNtrack |U |http://sourceforge.net/projects
    | | /ftrack-as 2:5080/102
    | |stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net
    | | v2.1.10 on 2020-04-30

    TransNet |UIO? |http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/
    | | transnet/index.html
    | | transnet@ressl.com.ar
    | | v2.11 on 2007-09-13

    +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

    INFORMATIONAL WEBSITES/BBS LISTS

    Telnet/Dialup BBS |# |http://www.telnetbbsguide.com 1:275/89
    Guide | | Maintained by Dave Perrussel
    | | This is probably the most updated BBS
    | | list on the Internet for a general
    | | BBS list.

    Synchronet BBS List |# |http://www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html
    | | Maintained automatically
    | | This list is specifically for
    | | Synchronet-based BBS systems and is
    | | automatically updated nightly.

    --- Azure/NewsPrep 3.0
    * Origin: Home of the Fidonews (2:2/2.0)
  • From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Monday, April 07, 2025 00:44:06
    The BBS Corner |# |http://www.bbscorner.com
    | | This website is more than just files,
    | | it's an encyclopedia of knowledge for
    | | BBS sysops and people who want to
    | | become sysops. This site is run by
    | | the same person who does the Telnet
    | | BBS Guide.

    BBS Nexus |# |https://bbsnexus.com
    | | This website offers a searchable list
    | | of Telnet BBS's.

    +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

    File Archives:

    http://www.filegate.net/ (FTP access via port 60721)
    https://hobbesarchive.com (New home of the Hobbes OS/2 Archive)

    Note: Most also provide FTP access (use ftp instead of http above)
    The BBS Software List is published weekly in the FidoNews.

    If you have corrections, suggestions or additions to the information
    above, please contact Andrew Leary with your information via the
    FIDONEWS echo or netmail at 1:320/219.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    --- Azure/NewsPrep 3.0
    * Origin: Home of the Fidonews (2:2/2.0)
  • From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Monday, April 07, 2025 00:44:06
    =================================================================
    SPECIAL INTEREST =================================================================

    Nodelist Stats

    Input nodelist nodelist.094
    size 155.5kb
    date 2025-04-04

    The nodelist has 820 nodes in it
    and a total of 1207 non-comment entries

    including 4 zones
    30 regions
    157 hosts
    59 hubs
    admin overhead 250 ( 30.49 %)

    and 86 private nodes
    15 nodes down
    36 nodes on hold
    off line overhead 137 ( 16.71 %)


    Speed summary:

    >9600 = 19 ( 2.32 %)
    9600 = 89 ( 10.85 %)
    (HST = 2 or 2.25 %)
    (CSP = 0 or 0.00 %)
    (PEP = 0 or 0.00 %)
    (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
    (HAY = 0 or 0.00 %)
    (V32 = 43 or 48.31 %)
    (V32B = 9 or 10.11 %)
    (V34 = 52 or 58.43 %)
    (V42 = 38 or 42.70 %)
    (V42B = 8 or 8.99 %)
    2400 = 1 ( 0.12 %)
    1200 = 0 ( 0.00 %)
    300 = 711 ( 86.71 %)

    ISDN = 19 ( 2.32 %)

    -----------------------------------------------------
    IP Flags Protocol Number of systems -----------------------------------------------------
    IBN Binkp 701 ( 85.49 %) ----------------------------------
    IFC Raw ifcico 62 ( 7.56 %) ----------------------------------
    IFT FTP 33 ( 4.02 %) ----------------------------------
    ITN Telnet 91 ( 11.10 %) ----------------------------------
    IVM Vmodem 11 ( 1.34 %) ----------------------------------
    IP Other 2 ( 0.24 %) ----------------------------------
    INO4 IPv6 only 5 ( 0.61 %) ----------------------------------

    CrashMail capable = 754 ( 91.95 %)
    MailOnly nodes = 249 ( 30.37 %)
    Listed-only nodes = 20 ( 2.44 %)



    [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm]
    [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/2]
    [ NetStats 3.8 2014-11-23]

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    --- Azure/NewsPrep 3.0
    * Origin: Home of the Fidonews (2:2/2.0)
  • From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Monday, April 07, 2025 00:44:06
    =================================================================
    FIDONEWS INFORMATION =================================================================

    How to Submit an Article

    If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here
    are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred
    method if you want reasonable control over how the published article
    will appear in the Fidonews:

    a) Plain text. If you could type it on your keyboard, it's probably
    quite OK. TABs (ASCII 09) are not allowed -- there's no knowing
    how long you've set your tab markings. No line may be longer
    than 70 characters.

    b) Put a title to the article. Put the title in two times. The first
    time, on the first line, with an * before it. The second time, on
    the second line, without the * and centered. This will help in the
    format since the title with the * is removed and used in the index,
    the second line will become the headline. On the third line, put
    your name and FidoNet address, present or former. If former, you
    may want to add some other address where you can be reached for
    personal comments.

    c) Deadline for article submission is Sunday, 22:00 UTC.


    In case a) and b) above is not crystal clear, here's an excellent
    summary by Ward Dossche, a major article contributor:

    Piece of cake:

    1) Ascii text
    2) Line length of 70
    3) Put this at the very top:

    *The title of your text
    The title of your text
    Your Name - Your Nodenumber

    The title is there twice, the line with the * is how it will be
    visible in the table of content.


    Help the Editor by following the above guides. Below are some subjects
    and the file extension for the article as set in the configuration
    file for the making of the Fidonews. Please help by putting the file
    extension of the correct subject on the file name if known.

    Ideas for Subject areas:

    Subject File | Subject File ----------------------------------|----------------------------------
    From the *C's *.css | Rebuttals to articles *.reb
    Fidonet Regional News *.reg | Fidonet Net News *.net
    Retractions *.rtx | General Fidonet Articles *.art
    Guest Editorial *.gue | Fidonet Current Events *.cur
    Fidonet Interviews *.inv | Fidonet Software Reviews *.rev
    Fidonet Web Page Reviews *.web | Fidonet Notices *.not
    Getting Fidonet Technical *.ftc | Question Of The Week *.que
    Humor in a Fido Vein *.hfv | Comix in ASCII *.cmx
    Fidonet's Int. Kitchen *.rec | Poet's Corner *.poe
    Clean Humor & Jokes *.jok | Other Stuff *.oth
    Fidonet Classified Ads *.ads | Corrections *.cor
    Best of Fidonet *.bof | Letters to the Editor *.let

    If you don't know or are not sure, send the article anyway. Put a .TXT
    on it and I'll try to figure out where it should be in the Fidonews.

    If you follow these simple guidelines, there should be little problem
    in getting your article published. If your submission is too far out
    of specs for the Fidonews, it will be returned to you and/or a message
    sent informing you of the problem. This DOES NOT mean that your
    article is not accepted. It means that there is something in it that I
    can not fix and I need your help on it.

    Send articles via e-mail or netmail, file attach or message to:

    Bj”rn Felten
    Fidonet 2:2/2 or 2:203/0
    E-Mail b @ felten dot se
    Skype file bfelten

    IMPORTANT! If you send the article via e-mail, make sure you put the
    word "fidonews" somewhere in the subject line! That way it
    will always pass the spam filter, ending up in the proper
    folder.

    Please include a message, telling me that you have sent an article.
    That way I will know to look for it.


    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Credits, Legal Information, Availability

    + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
    | |
    | Editor: Bj”rn Felten, 2:2/2 |
    | |
    | The IPv6 list: Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555 |
    | The S/W list: Andrew Leary, 1:320/219 |
    | |
    + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +

    + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - EDITORS EMERITI - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
    | |
    | Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince |
    | Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, |
    | Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink, |
    | Doug Meyers, Warren D. Bonner, Frank L. Vest |
    | |
    + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +

    Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet.
    There is no copyright attached to Fidonews, though authors
    retain rights to their contributed articles. Opinions expressed
    by the authors are strictly their own. Noncommercial duplication
    and distribution within Fidonet is encouraged. Authors are
    encouraged to send their articles in ASCII text to the Editor
    at one of the addresses above.

    The weekly edition of Fidonews is distributed through the file
    area FIDONEWS, and is published as echomail in the echo FIDONEWS.

    The different articles are distributed in the file area SNOOZE.
    A service to various projects for making Fidonews available on
    the web with a more pleasing lay-out.

    These sources are normally available through your Network
    Coordinator. The current and past issues are also available from
    the following sources:

    + -- -- -- -- -- -- - FIDONEWS AVAILABILITY - -- -- -- -- -- -- +
    | |
    | File request from 2:2/2 or 2:203/0: |
    | current issue FIDONEWS |
    | back issue, volume v, issue ii FNEWSvii.ZIP |
    | or FNEWTvii.ZIP |
    | articles, vol.no nn, issue ii INPUnnii.ZIP |
    | |
    | On the web: |
    | http://eljaco.se/FILES/fnews/ |
    | |
    | The FIDONEWS echo in your newsreader: |
    | news://eljaco.se/FIDONEWS |
    | |
    + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +

    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    ** Prepared for FIDONEWS by Azure/NewsPrep 3.0
    (c) Copyright 1996-1999 Peter Karlsson

    --- Azure/NewsPrep 3.0
    * Origin: Home of the Fidonews (2:2/2.0)
  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to All on Sunday, April 06, 2025 20:37:52
    Re: FidoNews 42:14 [02/06]: Jamnntpd Servers List
    By: FidoNews Robot to All on Mon Apr 07 2025 12:44 am

    I have nothing against JAMNNTPD, but I've often wondered: why does it get such high billing in the FIDONEWS? Does anyone even actually still run or support this software?

    =================================================================
    JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST =================================================================

    Updated 2023-09-06


    URL news://eljaco.se:4119
    Join http://fidonews.eu

    ^^^
    $ host fidonews.eu
    Host fidonews.eu not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

    NETMAIL Yes, 2:203/2

    URL nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi
    Join https://news.fidonet.fi

    $ nc news.fidonet.fi 119
    200 Welcome to SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 kco 20241026 (posting may be allowed)

    Is that JAMNNTPD?

    URL nntp://fidonews.mine.nu
    URL nntps://fidonews.mine.nu
    Join http://fidonews.mine.nu

    $ nc fidonews.mine.nu 119
    200 Welcome to SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 kco 20241026 (posting may be allowed)

    That's curious:
    $ host fidonews.mine.nu
    fidonews.mine.nu has address 51.38.115.207
    fidonews.mine.nu has IPv6 address 2001:41d0:701:1100::942
    $ host news.fidonet.fi
    news.fidonet.fi has address 51.38.115.207
    news.fidonet.fi has IPv6 address 2001:41d0:701:1100::942
    news.fidonet.fi mail is handled by 10 mail.fidonet.fi.

    Okay, so they're the same server... just listed with 2 different hostnames.

    URL nntp://news.bytemuseum.org

    $ nc news.bytemuseum.org 119
    Ncat: Connection refused.

    URL nntp://news.pharcyde.org

    $ nc news.pharcyde.org 119
    200 The Pharcyde News (Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NNTP Service 1.2)

    Definitely not JAMNNTPD.

    ... so what's going on with this incessant reminder about a NNTP program that nobody apparently uses and specific servers that either don't use it or are just totally defunct.

    Is anybody actually reading this? Does anyone care?
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #20:
    Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. Norco, CA WX: 67.1øF, 33.0% humidity, 6 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.24-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Rob Swindell on Monday, April 07, 2025 18:06:45
    Hey Rob!

    On Sun, Apr 06 2025 22:37:52 -0500, you wrote:

    URL nntp://news.pharcyde.org

    $ nc news.pharcyde.org 119
    200 The Pharcyde News (Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NNTP Service 1.2)

    Definitely not JAMNNTPD.

    At the moment, it's on port 2119, if you absolutely have a dire need to look so deeply into this. I just hadn't updated this list with Bjorn because it may very well go back to the original port at some point.

    Smapinntpd is basically the exact same thing as Jamnntpd, it just uses the smapi library instead of the older jamlib. So IMO, they fall under the same category. That one I have running on port 1119, if you need proof.

    ... so what's going on with this incessant reminder about a NNTP
    program that nobody apparently uses and specific servers that either
    don't use it or are just totally defunct.

    If my memory serves, Bjorn runs the last version by Johan Billings, however his address changed at some point, so maybe that just wasn't updated). Tommi, Carlos, myself, and maybe a couple others run some versions that we've forked to fix long standing bugs and add our own features.

    Is anybody actually reading this? Does anyone care?

    Why do you think I was recently asking you about some possible features in Synchronet's NNTP server, in regards to the "mail" area and making it fully accessible for BBS mail, netmail, and even email since the ability to access all three of these via the telnet BBS is already there (because this is a feature in Smapinntpd and Jamnntpd that I like)? You basically told me to use Synchronet's email server with Thunderbird (which I don't care to), instead. So here I am, using both in order to get the best features from both sides of the fence.

    At the moment, all messages containing CP437 look like hot garbage in Thunderbird with Synchronet's NNTP server. Not Synchronet's fault, since Thunderbird dropped any and all codepage support quite some time ago. Smapinntpd and Jamnntpd still use translation tables (much like Golded), so you can at least translate all of that CP437 to UTF-8 so it views nicely/properly in Thunderbird.

    I don't think I even got around to asking you for some kind of server side option or even a per user option, to convert to UTF-8 so things would look better in Thunderbird, because every time I ask you questions about Synchronet's NNTP service, you seem very uninterested, unless it's an actual bug.. much like when I bring up compatibility questions about Golded with Synchronet. *shrug*

    Either way, there's pros and cons for me between them all right now, and I'm still messing about with all three.

    So, yes I'm reading this. Granted, I could care less whether that information is listed in the Fidonews, or not. My guess it is some kind of a fanpage or dedication page to Johan and his program, because the editor has been using that software probably damn near since it's inception.. and I don't have a problem with that. Do you?

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
    --- SBBSecho 3.24-Linux
    * Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/700)
  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Nick Boel on Monday, April 07, 2025 16:21:40
    Re: Re: FidoNews 42:14 [02/06]: Jamnntpd Servers List
    By: Nick Boel to Rob Swindell on Mon Apr 07 2025 06:06 pm

    So, yes I'm reading this. Granted, I could care less whether that information is listed in the Fidonews, or not. My guess it is some kind of a fanpage or dedication page to Johan and his program, because the editor has been using that software probably damn near since it's inception.. and I don't have a problem with that. Do you?

    I think it's weird. And most of the information provided along with it appears severely out of date. So yeah, I think it's just noise at this point.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #4:
    David St. Hubbins: He died in a bizarre gardening accident...
    Norco, CA WX: 78.4øF, 30.0% humidity, 9 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.24-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Rob Swindell on Monday, April 07, 2025 18:46:36
    Hey Rob!

    On Mon, Apr 07 2025 18:21:40 -0500, you wrote:

    I think it's weird. And most of the information provided along with
    it appears severely out of date. So yeah, I think it's just noise at
    this point.

    Sometimes noise is better than silence. Vice versa, too.. but there's already enough silence in this hobby. ;)

    Was the BBS software page ever updated? That went years being out of date, until someone cared enough to say something about it.

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
    --- SBBSecho 3.24-Linux
    * Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/700)
  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Nick Boel on Monday, April 07, 2025 17:00:13
    Re: Re: FidoNews 42:14 [02/06]: Jamnntpd Servers List
    By: Nick Boel to Rob Swindell on Mon Apr 07 2025 06:46 pm

    Hey Rob!

    On Mon, Apr 07 2025 18:21:40 -0500, you wrote:

    I think it's weird. And most of the information provided along with
    it appears severely out of date. So yeah, I think it's just noise at
    this point.

    Sometimes noise is better than silence. Vice versa, too.. but there's already enough silence in this hobby. ;)

    In this case, the automatic posting of a out of date data about a program that nobody (or very few) appear to be actually using seems worse than silence.

    Was the BBS software page ever updated? That went years being out of date, until someone cared enough to say something about it.

    But that listing is of multiple programs that people actually still use and yeah, it gets updated. I guess with modern web search, these auto-posted "lists" are really of limited use anyway. A simple post that said "google supported FidoNet software" might be more effective and accurate. <shrug> The JAMNNTPD posting just seemed to me to be an odd duck, and with all the data in the post being obsolete, and nobody mentioning it, I think that just means that nobody is actually paying attention. I'm just saying: Hey editor of FidoNews, can we clean this up?
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #116:
    Synchronet v1a r5 (for MS-DOS) was released on February 19, 1992
    Norco, CA WX: 77.4øF, 32.0% humidity, 6 mph SW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.24-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Rob Swindell on Monday, April 07, 2025 19:13:05
    Hey Rob!

    On Mon, Apr 07 2025 19:00:13 -0500, you wrote:

    I'm just saying: Hey editor of FidoNews, can we clean this up?

    You might have to do this some archaic, dinosaur era, way. Possibly even giving up your first born in the process. If you go past the page you don't like, I think there's some instructions on how to go about it "properly".

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
    --- SBBSecho 3.24-Linux
    * Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/700)
  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Nick Boel on Monday, April 07, 2025 17:45:35
    Re: Re: FidoNews 42:14 [02/06]: Jamnntpd Servers List
    By: Nick Boel to Rob Swindell on Mon Apr 07 2025 07:13 pm

    Hey Rob!

    On Mon, Apr 07 2025 19:00:13 -0500, you wrote:

    I'm just saying: Hey editor of FidoNews, can we clean this up?

    You might have to do this some archaic, dinosaur era, way. Possibly even giving up your first born in the process. If you go past the page you don't like, I think there's some instructions on how to go about it "properly".

    "Fido NetMail sent to Bj”rn Felten @2:2/2" :-)
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #9:
    Doyle Hargraves: Morris here is a modern-day poet, kinda like in olden times. Norco, CA WX: 75.8øF, 29.0% humidity, 10 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs --- SBBSecho 3.24-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Rob Swindell on Tuesday, April 08, 2025 08:20:42
    On 7.4.2025 3.37, Rob Swindell wrote:

    I have nothing against JAMNNTPD, but I've often wondered: why
    does it get such high billing in the FIDONEWS?

    Why don't you ask the editor of fidonews. :)

    URL nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi
    Join https://news.fidonet.fi

    $ nc news.fidonet.fi 119
    200 Welcome to SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 kco 20241026 (posting may be allowed)

    Is that JAMNNTPD?

    You probed the wrong URL.. :)

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: smapinntpd/lnx (2:221/1.0)
  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Tommi Koivula on Monday, April 07, 2025 23:35:41
    Re: Re: FidoNews 42:14 [02/06]: Jamnntpd Servers List
    By: Tommi Koivula to Rob Swindell on Tue Apr 08 2025 08:20 am

    On 7.4.2025 3.37, Rob Swindell wrote:

    I have nothing against JAMNNTPD, but I've often wondered: why
    does it get such high billing in the FIDONEWS?

    Why don't you ask the editor of fidonews. :)

    I thought the editor would be wathing here, but I sent a netmail anyway.

    URL nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi
    Join https://news.fidonet.fi

    $ nc news.fidonet.fi 119
    200 Welcome to SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 kco 20241026 (posting may be allowed)

    Is that JAMNNTPD?

    You probed the wrong URL.. :)

    You mean hostname? Seems to be the one that was advertised as running JAMNNTPD (but isn't).
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #77:
    SSH = Secure Shell
    Norco, CA WX: 59.6øF, 55.0% humidity, 0 mph NNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs --- SBBSecho 3.24-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Rob Swindell on Tuesday, April 08, 2025 17:50:23
    On 8.4.2025 9.35, Rob Swindell wrote:

    I thought the editor would be wathing here, but I sent a netmail anyway.

    2:2/2 seems still to be operating as a point..

    Nodelist for Tuesday, April 8, 2025 -- Day number 098 parsed, 933 IP-nodes processed (0.062 sec)
    Calling '2:2/2'. Call time: '0000-2400' UTC.
    Now is: 1442 UTC.
    eljaco.se, 24555
    Calling 2:2/2 (2001:470:27:302::2:24555)
    error (Connection timed out)
    Calling 2:2/2 (94.254.14.141:24555)
    error (Connection timed out)

    > > > URL nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi
    > > > Join https://news.fidonet.fi
    >
    > > $ nc news.fidonet.fi 119
    > > 200 Welcome to SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 kco 20241026 (posting may be allowed)
    >
    > > Is that JAMNNTPD?
    >
    > You probed the wrong URL.. :)

    You mean hostname? Seems to be the one that was advertised as running JAMNNTPD
    (but isn't).

    rbb.fidonet.fi is running JamNNTPd/OS2
    news.fidonet.fi is running SmapiNNTPd/Linux
    mxo.fidonet.fi is running JamNNTPd/Linux

    The second one is also known as 'fidonews.mine.nu'
    The latest one is not listed in public

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Alexey Fayans@2:5030/1997 to Tommi Koivula on Tuesday, April 08, 2025 18:19:07
    Hello Tommi!

    On Tue, 08 Apr 2025 17:50 +0300, you wrote to Rob Swindell:

    2:2/2 seems still to be operating as a point..

    Nodelist for Tuesday, April 8, 2025 -- Day number 098 parsed, 933
    IP-nodes processed (0.062 sec)
    Calling '2:2/2'. Call time: '0000-2400' UTC. Now is: 1442 UTC.
    eljaco.se, 24555
    Calling 2:2/2 (2001:470:27:302::2:24555) error (Connection timed out) Calling 2:2/2 (94.254.14.141:24555) error (Connection timed out)

    Works for me:

    === Start of Windows Clipboard ===
    23:21 [3702404] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-99/Linux -p -P 2:2/2 /etc/binkd/binkd.cfg
    23:21 [3702404] creating a poll for 2:2/2@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    23:21 [3702404] clientmgr started
    + 23:21 [3702405] call to 2:2/2@fidonet
    23:21 [3702405] trying f2.n2.z2.binkp.net [94.254.14.141]...
    23:21 [3702405] connected
    + 23:21 [3702405] outgoing session with f2.n2.z2.binkp.net:24555 [94.254.14.141]
    - 23:21 [3702405] OPT CRAM-MD5-f5d34d1c5c3e030dfbb4fc29ce8a46ee
    + 23:21 [3702405] Remote requests MD mode
    - 23:21 [3702405] SYS Felten's Sharp System
    - 23:21 [3702405] ZYZ Bj?rn Felten
    - 23:21 [3702405] LOC Sove, Sweden
    - 23:21 [3702405] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 23:21 [3702405] TIME Tue, 8 Apr 2025 17:21:27 +0200
    - 23:21 [3702405] VER binkd/1.1a-65/Win32 binkp/1.1
    + 23:21 [3702405] addr: 2:203/0@fidonet
    + 23:21 [3702405] addr: 2:20/0@fidonet
    + 23:21 [3702405] addr: 2:2/2@fidonet
    + 23:21 [3702405] addr: 2:203/2@fidonet
    - 23:21 [3702405] OPT EXTCMD NDA
    + 23:21 [3702405] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 23:21 [3702405] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
    - 23:21 [3702405] remote is in ND mode
    + 23:21 [3702405] done (to 2:2/2@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    23:21 [3702405] session closed, quitting...
    23:21 [3702404] rc(3702405)=0
    23:21 [3702404] the queue is empty, quitting...
    === End of Windows Clipboard ===


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Alexey Fayans on Tuesday, April 08, 2025 18:10:26
    Hi Alexey,

    On 2025-04-08 18:19:07, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    Nodelist for Tuesday, April 8, 2025 -- Day number 098 parsed, 933
    IP-nodes processed (0.062 sec)
    Calling '2:2/2'. Call time: '0000-2400' UTC. Now is: 1442 UTC.
    eljaco.se, 24555
    Calling 2:2/2 (2001:470:27:302::2:24555) error (Connection timed out)
    Calling 2:2/2 (94.254.14.141:24555) error (Connection timed out)

    Works for me:

    === Start of Windows Clipboard ===
    23:21 [3702404] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-99/Linux -p -P 2:2/2 /etc/binkd/binkd.cfg
    23:21 [3702404] creating a poll for 2:2/2@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    23:21 [3702404] clientmgr started
    + 23:21 [3702405] call to 2:2/2@fidonet
    23:21 [3702405] trying f2.n2.z2.binkp.net [94.254.14.141]...
    23:21 [3702405] connected

    Sometimes you get through, most of the time you don't...


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.4-B20240523
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Alexey Fayans on Tuesday, April 08, 2025 19:12:36
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 18:19:06 +0300 Alexey Fayans wrote:

    TK> 2:2/2 seems still to be operating as a point..

    TK> Nodelist for Tuesday, April 8, 2025 -- Day number 098 parsed,
    TK> 933 IP-nodes processed (0.062 sec)
    TK> Calling '2:2/2'. Call time: '0000-2400' UTC. Now is: 1442 UTC.
    TK> eljaco.se, 24555
    TK> Calling 2:2/2 (2001:470:27:302::2:24555) error (Connection
    TK> timed out) Calling 2:2/2 (94.254.14.141:24555) error
    TK> (Connection timed out)

    Works for me:


    And now it works again. But only ipv4.

    Nodelist for Tuesday, April 8, 2025 -- Day number 098 parsed, 933
    IP-nodes processed (0.016 sec) Calling '2:2/2'. Call time: '0000-2400'
    UTC. Now is: 1609 UTC.
    eljaco.se, 24555
    Calling 2:2/2 (2001:470:27:302::2:24555)
    error (Connection timed out)
    Calling 2:2/2 (94.254.14.141:24555)
    OPT CRAM-MD5-92d84458c56cd140cba09d69bd908bee
    SYS Felten's Sharp System
    ZYZ Björn Felten
    LOC Säve, Sweden
    NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    TIME Tue, 8 Apr 2025 18:09:45 +0200
    VER binkd/1.1a-65/Win32 binkp/1.1
    address: 2:203/0@fidonet
    address: 2:20/0@fidonet
    address: 2:2/2@fidonet
    address: 2:203/2@fidonet
    OPT EXTCMD
    94.254.14.141 - Ok.
    Session with 2:2/2 done.

    --
    Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: jamnntpd/lnx (2:221/1.0)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Alexey Fayans on Tuesday, April 08, 2025 18:24:08
    Hi Alexey,

    On 2025-04-08 18:10:26, I wrote to you:

    Works for me:

    === Start of Windows Clipboard ===
    23:21 [3702404] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-99/Linux -p -P 2:2/2
    /etc/binkd/binkd.cfg
    23:21 [3702404] creating a poll for 2:2/2@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    23:21 [3702404] clientmgr started
    + 23:21 [3702405] call to 2:2/2@fidonet
    23:21 [3702405] trying f2.n2.z2.binkp.net [94.254.14.141]...
    23:21 [3702405] connected

    Sometimes you get through, most of the time you don't...

    It's about 1 in 10 calls that work for me:

    # grep 'connection to 2:203/0@fidonet failed' binkd.log | wc -l
    151

    # grep 'done (to 2:203/0@fidonet, OK' binkd.log | wc -l
    15

    Or maybe it's half that, because IPv6 always fails, and it tries that first.


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.4-B20240523
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Rob Swindell on Tuesday, April 08, 2025 17:48:00
    Hello Rob Swindell!

    ** On Sunday 06.04.25 - 20:37, Rob Swindell wrote to All:

    Definitely not JAMNNTPD.

    ... so what's going on with this incessant reminder about
    a NNTP program that nobody apparently uses and specific
    servers that either don't use it or are just totally
    defunct.


    Why not just rename the list to represent "NNTP Feeds"?


    Is anybody actually reading this? Does anyone care?

    I did when I came back to the fold as a user. An NNTP
    connection was easy and fast.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.64
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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to August Abolins on Tuesday, April 08, 2025 18:11:41
    Re: FidoNews 42:14 [02/06]: Jamnntpd Servers List
    By: August Abolins to Rob Swindell on Tue Apr 08 2025 05:48 pm

    Why not just rename the list to represent "NNTP Feeds"?

    Sure. Most Synchronet FidoNet nodes run an NNTP service, so the list could be a lot longer in that case too.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #38:
    Artie Fufkin: I'm not asking, I'm telling with this. Kick my ass.
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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Tommi Koivula on Wednesday, April 09, 2025 00:50:00
    Re: FidoNews 42:14 [02/06]: Jamnntpd Servers List
    By: Tommi Koivula to Rob Swindell on Tue Apr 08 2025 05:50 pm

    > You probed the wrong URL.. :)

    You mean hostname? Seems to be the one that was advertised as running JAMNNTPD
    (but isn't).

    rbb.fidonet.fi is running JamNNTPd/OS2

    Yup, I did (probe the wrong host) and you're right, it is. Cool. I just thought it was weird that most if not all the listed "servers" weren't actually running the software being advertised. I have nothing against JAMNNTPD (or JamNNTPD) I just was curious why it seems to be such a significant part of the official Fido newsletter and then when checked, most of the listed JAMNNTPD servers weren't actually. So, just seemed to me like unnecessary noise. But if no one else agrees, so be it. Seems odd.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #11:
    Doyle Hargraves (to Karl): What in the hell you doin' with that hammer?
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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Rob Swindell on Wednesday, April 09, 2025 11:03:26
    Rob Swindell wrote to Tommi Koivula <=-

    rbb.fidonet.fi is running JamNNTPd/OS2

    Yup, I did (probe the wrong host) and you're right, it is. Cool. I just thought it was weird that most if not all the listed "servers" weren't actually running the software being advertised. I have nothing against JAMNNTPD (or JamNNTPD) I just was curious why it seems to be such a significant part of the official Fido newsletter and then when checked, most of the listed JAMNNTPD servers weren't actually. So, just seemed
    to me like unnecessary noise. But if no one else agrees, so be it.
    Seems odd.

    I completely agree. Very odd, indeed.

    I believe the explanation is that the FidoNews "editor" is also
    quite.... odd.



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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Dan Clough on Wednesday, April 09, 2025 12:46:19
    Re: Re: FidoNews 42:14 [02/06]: Jamnntpd Servers List
    By: Dan Clough to Rob Swindell on Wed Apr 09 2025 11:03 am

    I believe the explanation is that the FidoNews "editor" is also
    quite.... odd.

    I have no opinion on that, just focusing on the product, not the person. I assume, like many other automated systems, it's just been neglected and ignored and lost its initial purpose at some point, but caries on doing what it was told, like a good robot. :-)
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #77:
    Rob Swindell still has dozens of BBS-related magazines in his possession
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.99 to Rob Swindell on Monday, April 21, 2025 10:59:59
    09/04/2025 3:11, Rob Swindell -> August Abolins:

    Why not just rename the list to represent "NNTP Feeds"?

    Sure. Most Synchronet FidoNet nodes run an NNTP service, so the list
    could be a lot longer in that case too.

    Just a side note...

    The nice thing about JamNNTPd/SmapiNNTPd is its great FTN integration compared to other NNTP servers or gateways, especially:
    - Support for the "To:" field in echomail with any NNTP client
    - Support for netmail

    Carlos

    --- Mozilla Thunderbird
    * Origin: cyberiada-NNTP (2:341/234.99)