Re: LinuxNet
By: Andrew Leary to deon on Wed Dec 06 2023 12:00 am

Hello deon!

06 Dec 23 13:16, you wrote to Rick Smith:

World Headquearters (WHQ) BBS:
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Telnet: bbs.thebytexchangebbs.com Port: 23

The correct address is bbs.thebytexchange.com.

Andrew

Hello Andrew,

Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet? Is it still a viable network these days? Thanks.
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Re: LinuxNet
By: Dan Clough to Andrew Leary on Thu Feb 20 2025 09:55 am

World Headquearters (WHQ) BBS:
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Telnet: bbs.thebytexchangebbs.com Port: 23

The correct address is bbs.thebytexchange.com.

Andrew

Hello Andrew,

Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet? Is it still a viable network these days? Thanks.

Andrew? You there?
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Dan Clough wrote to Andrew Leary:

Hello Andrew,

Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet? Is it still a viable network these days? Thanks.

Andrew? You there?

LinuxNet is still operating, barely. I can't get a response from Chad most
of the time, although his system is still running and accepting mail. I am still producing the distributed LinuxNet nodelists, although I have no confirmation that they are actually making it out to Chad's downlinks.

All in all, I'm starting to think that there's not much reason to continue
it. Perhaps the FidoNet LINUX echo would be a more realistic place to
discuss anything related to Linux.

Regards,

Andrew

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Andrew Leary wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Hello Andrew,

Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet? Is it still a viable network these days? Thanks.

LinuxNet is still operating, barely. I can't get a response from Chad most of the time, although his system is still running and accepting
mail. I am still producing the distributed LinuxNet nodelists,
although I have no confirmation that they are actually making it out to Chad's downlinks.

Okay, so not much has changed since I left.

All in all, I'm starting to think that there's not much reason to
continue it. Perhaps the FidoNet LINUX echo would be a more realistic place to discuss anything related to Linux.

Agreed. In fact I'd replace "not much" with "no" in your sentence
above. I've always been a bit surprised with how poorly that network
did, and how little traffic there is in the Linux echo. Quite a few
folks are using Linux these days but nobody seems real interested in
chatting about it. Not what I would expect.

Thanks for the update.



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All in all, I'm starting to think that there's not much reason to continue it. Perhaps the FidoNet LINUX echo would be a more realistic place to discuss anything related to Linux.

It could use the traffic.

Mike


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Andrew Leary wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Dan Clough wrote to Andrew Leary:

Hello Andrew,

Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet? Is it still a

viable

network these days? Thanks.

Andrew? You there?

LinuxNet is still operating, barely. I can't get a response from Chad most of the time, although his system is still running and accepting
mail. I am still producing the distributed LinuxNet nodelists, although
I have no confirmation that they are actually making it out to Chad's downlinks.

All in all, I'm starting to think that there's not much reason to
continue it. Perhaps the FidoNet LINUX echo would be a more realistic place to discuss anything related to Linux.

I am sad to see it has died so much. I was trying to join but getting nothing from Chad.

I remember back in the day when we started LinuxNet, it was active and a great place.

Oh, well, off I go. I do think there is a place for a dedicated Linux network but it needs to be maintained by the admin

Sean


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Sean Rima wrote to Andrew Leary <=-

Andrew Leary wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet? Is it still a

> viable network these days? Thanks.

LinuxNet is still operating, barely. I can't get a response from Chad most of the time, although his system is still running and accepting
mail. I am still producing the distributed LinuxNet nodelists, although
I have no confirmation that they are actually making it out to Chad's downlinks.

All in all, I'm starting to think that there's not much reason to
continue it. Perhaps the FidoNet LINUX echo would be a more realistic place to discuss anything related to Linux.

I am sad to see it has died so much. I was trying to join but getting nothing from Chad.

I remember back in the day when we started LinuxNet, it was active and
a great place.

Oh, well, off I go. I do think there is a place for a dedicated Linux network but it needs to be maintained by the admin

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused
network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing different
would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
your thoughts on it...



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On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 15:36:37 -0600
"Dan Clough" (1:135/115) <Dan.Clough@f115.n135.z1.fidonet> wrote:

Sean Rima wrote to Andrew Leary <=-

Andrew Leary wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet? Is it
still a

> viable network these days? Thanks.

LinuxNet is still operating, barely. I can't get a response
from Chad most of the time, although his system is still running
and accepting mail. I am still producing the distributed
LinuxNet nodelists, although I have no confirmation that they
are actually making it out to Chad's downlinks.

All in all, I'm starting to think that there's not much reason to continue it. Perhaps the FidoNet LINUX echo would be a more
realistic place to discuss anything related to Linux.

I am sad to see it has died so much. I was trying to join but
getting nothing from Chad.

I remember back in the day when we started LinuxNet, it was
active and a great place.

Oh, well, off I go. I do think there is a place for a dedicated
Linux network but it needs to be maintained by the admin

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
your thoughts on it...

I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather
than start up a new network.

Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have
time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I
don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.
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Re: Re: LinuxNet
By: Nigel Reed to All on Tue Feb 25 2025 03:45 pm

Howdy,

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather
than start up a new network.

Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have
time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I
don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.

So as you might recall, I've taken over some othernets in the past - only to see lots of initial messages of "great" and "thanks for keeping it alive", then it to fade away and die.

Do we need another net? Could these linux focused conversations run an existing othernet - that most of us are already on?

I'd be interested in getting those messages (didnt realize there was a linuxnet?) - wasnt this run by Gert and it faded away?


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Dan Clough wrote to Sean Rima <=-

I remember back in the day when we started LinuxNet, it was active

and

a great place.

Oh, well, off I go. I do think there is a place for a dedicated

Linux

network but it needs to be maintained by the admin

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
your thoughts on it...

Yeah I would be very interested in joining up

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Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-

Linux network but it needs to be maintained by the admin

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused
network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
your thoughts on it...

I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather
than start up a new network.

Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I
don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.

As one of the original starters of LinuxNet before I let it go to Gert, I was actually looking at restarting it as I thought it had died.

Sean


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Hello deon!

26 Feb 25 09:07, you wrote to Nigel Reed:

I'd be interested in getting those messages (didnt realize there was a linuxnet?) - wasnt this run by Gert and it faded away?

Anything that got taken over by Gert died and faded away....

Best to just let it die, and use one of the existing area's on fido or a othernet.



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On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 22:34:34 +0100
"Sean Rima" (2:263/1) <Sean.Rima@f1.n263.z2.fidonet> wrote:

Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-

Linux network but it needs to be maintained by the admin

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative"
Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest.
One thing different would certainly be that it would be actively
maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to
hear your thoughts on it...

I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet
rather than start up a new network.

Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he
doesn't have time to work and promote it? That is something I
would get behind. I don't think I'd want to try and start
another new network from scratch.

As one of the original starters of LinuxNet before I let it go to
Gert, I was actually looking at restarting it as I thought it had
died.

It had, along with a dozen other Gert groups.
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On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 09:48:06 +1100
"Stephen Walsh" (3:633/280) <Stephen.Walsh@f280.n633.z3.fidonet> wrote:

Hello deon!

26 Feb 25 09:07, you wrote to Nigel Reed:

I'd be interested in getting those messages (didnt realize there
was a linuxnet?) - wasnt this run by Gert and it faded away?

Anything that got taken over by Gert died and faded away....

Best to just let it die, and use one of the existing area's on fido
or a othernet.

Other than someone else taking over, I would say this would be a better
option. Fidonet has LINUX which is barely used. I don't know if it's
still in the backbone. The question is, why would people post and wait
a few days for replies when they can just stick something on the web
and have answers in seconds? It's a very niche crowd these days. It's
not like it used to be where things had to be split up to save
bandwidth and you didn't get what you don't want kind of thing.
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Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-

I remember back in the day when we started LinuxNet, it was
active and a great place.

Oh, well, off I go. I do think there is a place for a dedicated
Linux network but it needs to be maintained by the admin

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
your thoughts on it...

I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather
than start up a new network.

Well, since it's basically dead, there isn't much difference in those
two options.

Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I
don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.

Certainly a possibility. One of the big issues with that is that the
current ZC doesn't seem to respond to anything, and I think might not be
in favor of such a thing.

I suppose it's worth asking him, I can give that a try.



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deon wrote to Nigel Reed <=-

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather
than start up a new network.

Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have
time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I
don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.

So as you might recall, I've taken over some othernets in the past -
only to see lots of initial messages of "great" and "thanks for keeping
it alive", then it to fade away and die.

Yes, that's always a possibility.

Do we need another net? Could these linux focused conversations run an existing othernet - that most of us are already on?

Well, the existing LinuxNet is not really new. It was revived about two
years ago, and seemed to be getting off the ground, but then the ZC just
kind of .... fizzled. Very difficult to contact or get a reply about anything. I may try again to contact him.

I'd be interested in getting those messages (didnt realize there was a linuxnet?) - wasnt this run by Gert and it faded away?

It was, long ago, but "came back to life" briefly nearly two years ago
now, and then faded away again after maybe six months. I got so
frustrated with the lack of management that I left the net.




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Sean Rima wrote to Dan Clough <=-

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
your thoughts on it...

Yeah I would be very interested in joining up

OK Sean, thanks and stay tuned, we'll see where this goes...




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Re: Re: LinuxNet
By: Dan Clough to Sean Rima on Tue Feb 25 2025 15:36:37

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there
would be interest. One thing different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear your thoughts on it...

I'm by no means an expert with linux though this laptop runs on Debian. I'd certainly be interested in joining a new network.

Mick Manning
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Mickey wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Re: Re: LinuxNet
By: Dan Clough to Sean Rima on Tue Feb 25 2025 15:36:37

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused

networ

k, and wondering if there
would be interest. One thing different would certainly be that it would

be

actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear your thoughts on it...

I'm by no means an expert with linux though this laptop runs on Debian. I'd certainly be interested in joining a new network.

Okay Mick, stay tuned and we'll hash things around a bit and see what
we're gonna do. :-)




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Hello Dan!

25 Feb 25 15:36, you wrote to Sean Rima:

Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet?

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
your thoughts on it...

would be happy to help out in any way or form!

regards,
Floris


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Dan Clough wrote to Sean Rima <=-

Sean Rima wrote to Dan Clough <=-

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused
network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing

different

would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to

hear

your thoughts on it...

Yeah I would be very interested in joining up

OK Sean, thanks and stay tuned, we'll see where this goes...

That's grand

Sean


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Floris van Unen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet?

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
your thoughts on it...

would be happy to help out in any way or form!

Thanks! Stay tuned...



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Re: Re: LinuxNet
By: Dan Clough to Nigel Reed on Tue Feb 25 2025 07:00 pm

I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear your thoughts on it...

I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather than start up a new network.

Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.

Certainly a possibility. One of the big issues with that is that the current ZC doesn't seem to respond to anything, and I think might not be
in favor of such a thing.

I suppose it's worth asking him, I can give that a try.

Well.... an update on this. I've tried contacting Chad (the ZC) via email, Fido netmail, and Linuxnet echomail, and have had no response. I'll give it a little longer, but not gonna hold my breath.

If anyone knows another way to contact him, that would be great, and helpful. Basically wanting to know if he intends to continue running LinuxNet, and/or how he would feel about letting someone else do it.

Please advise here if anyone gets any further news... Thanks.
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I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather
than start up a new network.

Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have >> NR> time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I
don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.

Certainly a possibility. One of the big issues with that is that the
current ZC doesn't seem to respond to anything, and I think might not be
in favor of such a thing.

I suppose it's worth asking him, I can give that a try.

Well.... an update on this. I've tried contacting Chad (the ZC) via email,
Fido netmail, and Linuxnet echomail, and have had no response. I'll give it a
little longer, but not gonna hold my breath.

If anyone knows another way to contact him, that would be great, and helpful. Basically wanting to know if he intends to continue running LinuxNet, and/or how he would feel about letting someone else do it.

Please advise here if anyone gets any further news... Thanks.

I have tried to also get hold of Chad and I am assuming at this stage that his BBS is on auto pilot. As far as I can see, there has been no sysop login in the
last while. It is hard to know.

I have sent him routed netmails, emails and messages on his bbs and all to no avail. Maybe he has family or other issues, we don't know but no one seems to be a stand in, in the event that he cannot be contacted.

I cannot recall seeing a message from him here saying he was back running it, it was someone else who mentioned it and Chad's bbs

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