• The politics echo

    From David Dalton@1:3634/62 to All on Monday, November 09, 2026 12:47:13
    It's no wonder, really, that young and reasonable people have no interest in Fidonet, even if they stop by and check it out.

    There's nothing left but a bunch of delusional, ignorant, vile, digusting old farts blathering on about all the horse shit they believe -- an echo chamber, not an echo.

    I'm dropping this echo. Carry on, you old fools.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to David Dalton on Monday, November 09, 2026 12:24:58
    On 09 Nov 2026, David Dalton said the following...


    It's no wonder, really, that young and reasonable people have no
    interest in Fidonet, even if they stop by and check it out.

    There's nothing left but a bunch of delusional, ignorant, vile,
    digusting old farts blathering on about all the horse shit they believe


    Can you support this??

    Was there something in what I wrote was factually wrong??

    Thanx

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  • From Brent Hendricks@1:135/250 to David Dalton1:3634/62.0 on Monday, November 09, 2026 14:45:37
    Good afternoon David,

    While I whole heartedly agree with your sentiments on thsi echo (I will leave it at that.), a couple of things to think about.

    1) Don't judge the net by one echo, or by a few pepole who's heads are so far up their collect asses that only one of their senses work.

    2) Don't be that SysOp that decides what their users want to see and interact with. Provide clear and conciese instructions on how to unjoin the echo from their NEW scan, and leave it at that.

    Anyway, just my .2, adjusted for inflation of course!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to David Dalton on Monday, November 09, 2026 15:11:48
    It's no wonder, really, that young and reasonable people have no
    interest in Fidonet, even if they stop by and check it out.

    There's nothing left but a bunch of delusional, ignorant, vile,
    digusting old farts blathering on about all the horse shit they believe
    -- an echo chamber, not an echo.

    Predator alert: David is looking for young people on the internet.

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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to David Dalton on Monday, November 09, 2026 18:42:29
    On 09 Nov 2026, David Dalton said the following...

    There's nothing left but a bunch of delusional, ignorant, vile,
    digusting old farts blathering on about all the horse shit they believe
    -- an echo chamber, not an echo.

    If it were me, I would just remove it from my newscan and let users decide for themselves. That's part of what BBSing was all about. Facebook gets to decide what you see and don't see thanks to their algorithms. Don't be an algorithm.

    While you are correct in some respects, itt can be entertaining at times to read what people actually believe. Doesn't mean I have to jump in the cesspool.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, November 09, 2026 19:45:52
    On 09 Nov 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Predator alert: David is looking for young people on the internet.


    I thought this was the case. I showed that the Supreme Court weighed in on the cases he was talking about. The Supreme Court said that Trump could do what he was asking to do.

    I did say sarcastically that if dead people could register to vote and cast their votes while simultaneously, and at the same time, when they are dead... Liberal women can get an ID to vote.

    Apparently he didn't know dead people were on the voter rolls and voting.

    He should get his v@gina looked at, seems to be sensitive.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 07:14:58
    IB Joe wrote to David Dalton <=-

    On 09 Nov 2026, David Dalton said the following...

    It's no wonder, really, that young and reasonable people have no
    interest in Fidonet, even if they stop by and check it out.

    There's nothing left but a bunch of delusional, ignorant, vile,
    digusting old farts blathering on about all the horse shit they believe

    Can you support this??

    Was there something in what I wrote was factually wrong??

    He's (Oh! Did I just assume his gender? :) ) just projecting again. I swear, we should bring back Drive In theaters with all the projection the Left does.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Richard Miles on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 10:21:44
    -- an echo chamber, not an echo.

    If it were me, I would just remove it from my newscan and let users
    decide for themselves. That's part of what BBSing was all about.
    Facebook gets to decide what you see and don't see thanks to their algorithms. Don't be an algorithm.

    I like everything you said about "Don't like it, don't read it" and I also like what you said about Facebook. Facebook sucks.

    While you are correct in some respects, itt can be entertaining at times to read what people actually believe. Doesn't mean I have to jump in the cesspool.

    But this is not a "cesspool." A few of us like President Trump, but we're not ganging up on anybody. I have friends who are severely brainwashed so I don't talk politics with those guys; we talk about other stuff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 10:35:52
    I thought this was the case. I showed that the Supreme Court weighed in on the cases he was talking about. The Supreme Court said that Trump could do what he was asking to do.

    I did say sarcastically that if dead people could register to vote and cast their votes while simultaneously, and at the same time, when they
    are dead... Liberal women can get an ID to vote.

    The lefties don't get sarcasm. I think they've taken too many vaccines and it's gone to their brains.

    The other issue is that they are programmed to believe that anyone who says the words "voter fraud" is a "conspiracy theorist." They don't believe that conspiracies exist and they think that theorization is a bad thing (but of course theory is human nature.)

    He should get his v@gina looked at, seems to be sensitive.

    Mine hurts bigtime ;)

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 15:14:56
    On 10 Nov 2026, Ron L. said the following...


    Was there something in what I wrote was factually wrong??

    He's (Oh! Did I just assume his gender? :) ) just projecting again. I swear, we should bring back Drive In theaters with all the projection
    the Left does.


    I love debate. make a claim, support it, have it challenged while they support their claims....

    OMG... He shows a bunch of cases that are in court against Trump wanting to verifying the voter rolls. I show that the Supreme Court has weighed in and said her can do it.

    Instead of counter claiming and making a great argument... He runs away screaming...


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    Great job moses!!!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 15:44:46
    On 10 Nov 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    The lefties don't get sarcasm. I think they've taken too many vaccines
    and it's gone to their brains.


    Too bad, sarcasm is my secret power!!!


    The other issue is that they are programmed to believe that anyone who says the words "voter fraud" is a "conspiracy theorist." They don't believe that conspiracies exist and they think that theorization is a
    bad thing (but of course theory is human nature.)


    2026 is weird. Back in the day when I was at University some of my classes used animals for research, RATS, and one day when I came out of the lab I bumped into a lefty.

    We debated the ethics of animal research. I argued on the side of the research while she took the other side.

    It was a pleasant back and forth and she left... Not SCREAMING not like in any way you see the left handling debates today... She left with me thinking I won the argument.

    A few days later I was reviewing the debate in my head and in doing so I come to realize that she ended the debate, and did so sarcastically... Piss me off... I had other arguments I could have won!!!

    At the end of the day there were 2 people with opposing ideas talking things out.

    Not today though

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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 21:08:20
    On 10 Nov 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    But this is not a "cesspool." A few of us like President Trump, but
    we're not ganging up on anybody. I have friends who are severely brainwashed so I don't talk politics with those guys; we talk about

    I use the term cesspool for almost all political and religious discussions. People tend to resort to name calling or addressing personalities instead of behavior and facts and invariably someone gets their feelings hurt.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 21:58:42
    A few days later I was reviewing the debate in my head and in doing so I come to realize that she ended the debate, and did so sarcastically... Piss me off... I had other arguments I could have won!!!

    At the end of the day there were 2 people with opposing ideas talking things out.

    It still happens sometimes, but it's rare. I have a old friend who is a leftist but at the same time he doesn't like woke sh~t. I can talk politics with him and he's a smart guy, and it seems like he usually gets my point.

    But none of these BBS leftists will truly debate. They just use personal attacks and weasel out every time someone says something that they don't want to hear. I guess that when they weasel out by never coming back with a reply,
    that means that we won the "debate" if we can call that a debate.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Richard Miles on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 22:02:50
    But this is not a "cesspool." A few of us like President Trump, but we're not ganging up on anybody. I have friends who are severely brainwashed so I don't talk politics with those guys; we talk about

    I use the term cesspool for almost all political and religious discussions. People tend to resort to name calling or addressing personalities instead of behavior and facts and invariably someone gets their feelings hurt.

    I get it and that makes sense, and to some extent I'm guilty of it too.

    But it shouldn't be that way. The left and the right need to make compromises, and it sounds that that's what President Trump is interested in doing now with the illegal immigrant problem in the United States.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wednesday, November 11, 2026 07:30:22
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    I love debate. make a claim, support it, have it challenged while they support their claims....

    Which is why the Leftoids hate debate.

    OMG... He shows a bunch of cases that are in court against Trump
    wanting to verifying the voter rolls. I show that the Supreme Court
    has weighed in and said he can do it.

    But the Supreme Court has also said that lower level judges can't block Trump rules that cover the whole country. Yet they still continue to do that.

    Laws don't impact the Left because they believe that they are above the law. What needs to happen is enforcement of the law on the letists.

    Instead of counter claiming and making a great argument... He runs away screaming...

    He can't handle facts that counter his false Narrative.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, November 11, 2026 07:30:22
    Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-

    The lefties don't get sarcasm. I think they've taken too many vaccines
    and it's gone to their brains.

    I thought it was the hair die. Or is it the trans medications?


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Richard Miles on Wednesday, November 11, 2026 07:30:22
    Richard Miles wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    I use the term cesspool for almost all political and religious discussions. People tend to resort to name calling or addressing personalities instead of behavior and facts

    Only the Leftoids (note that's not a "name calling" - that's a label describing their behavior) do that.

    and invariably someone gets
    their feelings hurt.

    No one cares about other people's feelings.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, November 11, 2026 12:16:06
    On 10 Nov 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    It still happens sometimes, but it's rare. I have a old friend who is a leftist but at the same time he doesn't like woke sh~t. I can talk politics with him and he's a smart guy, and it seems like he usually
    gets my point.

    But none of these BBS leftists will truly debate. They just use personal attacks and weasel out every time someone says something that they don't want to hear. I guess that when they weasel out by never coming back
    with a reply, that means that we won the "debate" if we can call that a debate.


    No, back then we talked about differences, no one screamed and ran away.

    It was a great time in life.

    I watched a debate this morning. It was between a young Christian woman and a young Muslim woman. The Muslim woman was saying that the Old Testament prophesied Mohammad's arrival.

    It was interesting to see the young Christian girl kick but. Every time the Muslim girl gave an unsubstantiated claim the Christian girl would just say where does it say that.

    Christian girl won the debate, but what's more important, the Muslim girl did scream and run away at the first challenge.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wednesday, November 11, 2026 12:56:58
    On 11 Nov 2026, Ron L. said the following...


    But the Supreme Court has also said that lower level judges can't block Trump rules that cover the whole country. Yet they still continue to do that.

    Laws don't impact the Left because they believe that they are above the law. What needs to happen is enforcement of the law on the letists.


    I'm aware of that decision and could you imagine if I used it in my argument?

    I was excited thinking there was going to be some back and forth and I didn't know his septum was pierced, he went straight into meltdown mode.


    He can't handle facts that counter his false Narrative.


    Talking about false narrative, Van Joans shed some light on that topic.

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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Ron L. on Wednesday, November 11, 2026 15:08:18
    On 11 Nov 2026, Ron L. said the following...

    Only the Leftoids (note that's not a "name calling" - that's a label describing their behavior) do that.

    I see folks I know from both ends of the spectrum exhibiting this behavior. Takes about five minutes of scrolling social media to see it from both sides, including the mass media.

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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Ron L. on Wednesday, November 11, 2026 15:10:49
    On 11 Nov 2026, Ron L. said the following...

    No one cares about other people's feelings.

    And therein lies the problem.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Wednesday, November 11, 2026 21:36:20
    But none of these BBS leftists will truly debate. They just use perso attacks and weasel out every time someone says something that they do want to hear. I guess that when they weasel out by never coming back with a reply, that means that we won the "debate" if we can call that debate.

    No, back then we talked about differences, no one screamed and ran away.

    These people probably run away from all their problems, not just when they get stumped in a political debate. There's no correcting them; they'll just double-down on wrongness.

    Was there a time when they didn't exist?

    It was interesting to see the young Christian girl kick but. Every time the Muslim girl gave an unsubstantiated claim the Christian girl would just say where does it say that.

    Christian girl won the debate, but what's more important, the Muslim
    girl did scream and run away at the first challenge.

    That's the same crap that we see in here all the time. Joseph P, Mike Powell, Brent, Bjorn, they're all the same. Reply to them with words that mimic the TV and they'll happily reply, but say something that goes against the grain and they silently fade away.

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