• Dealing with Dems

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All on Monday, November 09, 2026 17:35:36
    I saw a clip from 60 Minutes where Trump floated the possibility of making a deal with Dems to let certain illegal immigrants remain in the country.

    I didn't like the idea at first, but weigh the pros and cons:

    Cons:
    It sends a message that it's ok to walk into the country illegally.
    It's going to be hard to vet them after they've evaded justice for so long.

    Pros/Bargain opportunities:
    Build the wall
    Make the "decent" illegals respect the country and MAGA
    End "asylum" laws
    Allow us to focus on illegals with foreign warrants
    Ends the threat of another invasion next time we have a Democrat president

    So it's not necessarily a terrible idea.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, November 09, 2026 19:54:22
    On 09 Nov 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I saw a clip from 60 Minutes where Trump floated the possibility of
    making a deal with Dems to let certain illegal immigrants remain in the country.

    I didn't like the idea at first, but weigh the pros and cons:


    I didn't see 60 minutes... I saw a quote that said what you said.

    I didn't take it in a negative way though.

    Trump likes to make deals... I see some people getting Amnesty, there are people who've been in the US for years... DACA and the like.

    It would be people without criminal records, maybe those who didn't collect welfare...

    Trump can tack the Save America Act to that bill and do the job Thune should have been doing in the 1st place.

    The next 2 years are going to be eventful.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 07:14:58
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    I saw a clip from 60 Minutes where Trump floated the possibility of
    making a deal with Dems to let certain illegal immigrants remain in the country.

    I didn't like the idea at first, but weigh the pros and cons:

    I think we need to do what the Left has done: Play the long game.

    That said, I don't think this will have the intended outcome.

    Build the wall

    Which the next Democrat will tear down or knock holes in it.

    Make the "decent" illegals respect the country and MAGA

    Their culture prohibits this. Remember, these are not "immigrants". They are invaders. They do not come here to assimilate to OUR culture. They bring their own and intend to keep it.

    End "asylum" laws

    Not really a point since those laws are illegal in the first place. The local gov't doesn't get to decide that. We faught a Civil War over this point and the Feds won.

    Allow us to focus on illegals with foreign warrants

    That's what we are doing now. We only pick up non-hostile illegals while picking up the hostile ones.

    Ends the threat of another invasion next time we have a Democrat
    president

    This is untrue. The purpose of the invasion was to replace the American population with groups of people who were more compliant. That plan won't end.

    And to address the Elephant in the Room: The Left cannot be trusted to keep their word. They are known, proven liars.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 10:39:10
    I didn't see 60 minutes... I saw a quote that said what you said.

    I didn't take it in a negative way though.

    Same here (didn't take it negatively.) The headlines are designed to cause friction between us and Trump, but it ain't working.

    Trump likes to make deals... I see some people getting Amnesty, there are people who've been in the US for years... DACA and the like.

    It would be people without criminal records, maybe those who didn't collect welfare...

    Trump can tack the Save America Act to that bill and do the job Thune should have been doing in the 1st place.

    Good point! Exactly. Illegal immigrants who aren't wanted for murder in their home countries are good enough for me, especially if there's 0% chance that they'll mess with our elections.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 11:10:06
    I didn't like the idea at first, but weigh the pros and cons:

    I think we need to do what the Left has done: Play the long game.

    That said, I don't think this will have the intended outcome.

    It will always be a long and tedious process to locate specific illegals, catch them, and deport them without Mike Powell using himself as a human shield to keep them here. No policy change needed there..

    Their culture prohibits this. Remember, these are not "immigrants".
    They are invaders. They do not come here to assimilate to OUR culture. They bring their own and intend to keep it.

    This is one of those things that we might just have to accept for the greater good and to play the long game. But something that's missing from this conversation is: How will this ever be fair to those who came legally? They ought to be refunded for all their consulate fees.

    Allow us to focus on illegals with foreign warrants

    That's what we are doing now. We only pick up non-hostile illegals while picking up the hostile ones.

    If changing that protocol is what it takes to get the Save Act passed, let's do it.

    And to address the Elephant in the Room: The Left cannot be trusted to keep their word. They are known, proven liars.

    Surely Trump knows this as well as we do. We need an amendment made quickly so that the left are stuck with it before Inauguration Day.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, November 10, 2026 15:55:46
    On 10 Nov 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Good point! Exactly. Illegal immigrants who aren't wanted for murder in their home countries are good enough for me, especially if there's 0% chance that they'll mess with our elections.


    Trump always plays the hand that was dealt him so we need some time to see how it plays out.

    Don't underestimate him and don't underestimate the Democrats overplaying theirs.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, November 11, 2026 07:30:22
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    This is one of those things that we might just have to accept for the greater good and to play the long game. But something that's missing
    from this conversation is: How will this ever be fair to those who came legally? They ought to be refunded for all their consulate fees.

    I don't think we need to worry. Trump already said that there will be no amnesty.

    The problem with illegal immigration is that they are hard to tell them apart from the ones that came legally and assimilated to our culture.

    But a simple check would be to enforce our standard on them. Ex: When a bunch of Indians dump their trash into one of our rivers, we arrest and deport immediately. Soon only the ones that have assimilated to our culture will be left.

    If changing that protocol is what it takes to get the Save Act passed, let's do it.

    The SAVE act has no hope of passing now. We need to wait until we audit the elections, demonstrate that the Democrats were not elected, and probably have to hold new elections.

    Surely Trump knows this as well as we do. We need an amendment made quickly so that the left are stuck with it before Inauguration Day.

    I don't think that can happen right now.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wednesday, November 11, 2026 11:40:28
    The problem with illegal immigration is that they are hard to tell them apart from the ones that came legally and assimilated to our culture.

    But a simple check would be to enforce our standard on them. Ex: When a bunch of Indians dump their trash into one of our rivers, we arrest and deport immediately. Soon only the ones that have assimilated to our culture will be left.

    That's true and that's something that needs to never change.

    The SAVE act has no hope of passing now. We need to wait until we audit the elections, demonstrate that the Democrats were not elected, and probably have to hold new elections.

    That's true also and I'm not too hurt about having the Communists win senate seats because all the GOP senators are rinos. Every last one of them, including Ted Cruz, because they all voted to keep Thune as "leader."

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