• The US as a manufacturing country?

    From Joseph Pereira@1:124/5016 to All on Tuesday, April 08, 2025 15:08:05
    Trump seems to have the idea that the US can create a fully-fledged manufacturing industry again.

    With such a policy, you completely abandon globalization.

    Now, globalization has some disadvantages, including the creation of ridiculously large and powerful companies, but the big advantage is that you can produce worldwide in the most efficient way and mutual dependence is created, which also means that you can prevent wars.

    But anyway, with globalization you can make a choice. You can produce where the raw materials are, or produce where cheap energy is, or produce where labor is cheapest. If energy becomes more expensive, you can shift production to another part of the world. The same goes for all other changes.

    If you decide, as the US now seems to be doing, to produce in your own country no matter what, then you distance yourself from 'most efficient'.

    In short, the US is content with the fact that it will produce more expensively. If the rest of the world continues to cooperate, the US will become a very expensive economic island that will only produce for itself and that will make the cheaper foreign products in the US expensive by means of enormous tariffs.

    Australia did that until the 1970s. There you could buy an Australian TV for much more money than a Japanese TV that also had much better picture and sound. That is why Japanese TVs had an enormous import tariff that allowed the Australian manufacturer to survive.

    The US no longer wants to be economically and indirectly militarily dependent on other countries. In doing so, it also makes itself an enemy of all other countries. The US will no longer buy foreign goods en masse. American goods will soon be too expensive and probably also too bad to be interesting elsewhere.

    America's economy will therefore shrink enormously. The dollar will become a currency of the past for the rest of the world. We no longer have any reason to hold dollars. After all, we will do much less business with the US.

    The dollar as a world currency is therefore becoming a thing of the past and with it the power of the US is also shifting towards the past. For the time being, the US will remain powerful, but the power of the US is waning and with each new quarrel that Trump enters into, the influence of the US will decrease.

    It is not good news for peace, because there will always be countries that want more power and if that is multiple countries at the same time, then the world will not become any safer.
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Joseph Pereira on Tuesday, April 08, 2025 15:39:11
    I realize that brainwashed leftists enjoy talking more than listening, but hear me out:

    With such a policy, you completely abandon globalization.

    That's exactly what the USA needs to do.

    Now, globalization has some disadvantages, including the creation of ridiculously large and powerful companies, but the big advantage is that you can produce worldwide in the most efficient way and mutual
    dependence is created, which also means that you can prevent wars.

    There is NO WAY to avoid wars when there's a dishonest president in the Oval Office. You see, they need to perform money-funneling operations, and wars are the perfect way to do it.

    In short, the US is content with the fact that it will produce more expensively. If the rest of the world continues to cooperate, the US will become a very expensive economic island that will only produce for
    itself and that will make the cheaper foreign products in the US
    expensive by means of enormous tariffs.

    The USA is being tariffed to death, and it's close to $40 trillion dollars in debt. You may be excused.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wednesday, April 09, 2025 10:08:00
    Now, globalization has some disadvantages, including the creation of ridiculously large and powerful companies, but the big advantage is that you can produce worldwide in the most efficient way and mutual dependence is created, which also means that you can prevent wars.

    There is NO WAY to avoid wars when there's a dishonest president in the Oval Office. You see, they need to perform money-funneling operations, and wars
    re
    the perfect way to do it.

    I would expand that to include trade wars... there is also no way to avoid
    them when a dishonest president is in office.

    The USA is being tariffed to death, and it's close to $40 trillion dollars in debt. You may be excused.

    The US has imposed a tariff on Australia, a country we have a trade
    *surplus* with, and on at least two places that have no inhabitants and
    that we do no trade with. The reason for that last part is because AI told them to and no one double-checked the results.


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  • From Don Vally@1:135/363 to AARON THOMAS on Wednesday, April 09, 2025 12:08:59
    Quoting Aaron Thomas to Joseph Pereira <=-

    I realize that brainwashed leftists enjoy talking more than
    listening, but hear me out:

    It's a lost cause Aaron, I've only seen 2 posts from 'Joseph', but the
    writing was on the wall (post). You'll never be able to get through. The
    mind is closed off. You'll only cause yourself un-needed stress.

    Don


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thursday, April 10, 2025 08:57:00
    I would expand that to include trade wars... there is also no way to avoid them when a dishonest president is in office.

    What's dishonest about Trump's tariffs?

    The US has imposed a tariff on Australia, a country we have a trade *surplus* with, and on at least two places that have no inhabitants and that we do no trade with. The reason for that last part is because AI told them to and no one double-checked the results.

    It's better to be safe. :)

    If Trump starts waxing poetic about bleach again, I will miss you.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, April 09, 2025 13:25:59
    I would expand that to include trade wars... there is also no way to
    avoid them when a dishonest president is in office.

    What's dishonest about Trump's tariffs?

    The US has imposed a tariff on Australia, a country we have a trade *surplus* with, and on at least two places that have no inhabitants and that we do no trade with. The reason for that last part is because AI told them to and no one double-checked the results.

    It's better to be safe. :)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Don Vally on Wednesday, April 09, 2025 13:28:42
    I realize that brainwashed leftists enjoy talking more than listening, but hear me out:

    It's a lost cause Aaron, I've only seen 2 posts from 'Joseph', but the writing was on the wall (post). You'll never be able to get through. The mind is closed off. You'll only cause yourself un-needed stress.

    You're right about all that, but it's not stressful. Isn't it funny to see people reacting ridiculously to stuff they heard on TV?

    "According to a study, bad stuff could happen!" hehe

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