Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Nov 09 2025 10:44 am

As I said, just because you don't like it doesn't make it broken.

As you are the only one whose ever complained, I would suggest the
problem is elsewhere -- and very much not mine.

i'm the only one that cares enough to say something.
***you yourself asked for help with your permission issues.

OTOH, I originally had Synchronet set up so that all the message
areas were grouped by network -- which is how you like it -- and
users (plural) did complain because they couldn't find the "echoes

it's not how i like it; it's just the normal way of doing things. especially when you have a lot of msg networks. you made a mess out of it.

When a user isn't either pissed at the network admins, or banned by
then, which networks you want/need to avoid isn't an issue.

what network am i banned from? you mean 'micronet'? the network i was told i was banned from after i stopped using it for 8 months? that's just
sean being sean. i dont care, i don't really visit bbses or even post on msg networks that much.

Sean gets his feelings hurt when people quit his
network. The guy can't even run it himself(75% of the time it has been entirely operated by other people because of his unstable life).

The funny thing is he brags about running things at home and says i don't
know anything because i now run everything on rented servers. i guess he imagines it's all managed by the company? :D

There's another guy in here that's posting now that he's pissed about dropping micronet. Anyways, he's a loser parasite, i don't know why i'm even talking about him other than your mud slinging.

i dont care what you do with your msg subs. as you can see i dont visit your bbs, do i? i'm was just joking that it was setup wrong, which it is. your permissions were all wrong for one thing.

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On 09 Nov 2025, Dumas Walker said the following...

OTOH, I originally had Synchronet set up so that all the message areas were grouped by network -- which is how you like it -- and users
(plural) did complain because they couldn't find the "echoes about (subject)" that they were used to participating in on the predecessor
BBS.

can message areas not be grouped in more than one way? i don't recall. perhaps in a(n unpleasant) way where two areas listed in two groups use the same files?

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Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 09 2025 09:38 pm

predecessor BBS.

can message areas not be grouped in more than one way? i don't
recall. perhaps in a(n unpleasant) way where two areas listed in two
groups use the same files?

There's probably 100 ways to do it if you are creative and we have
javascript at our disposal.

You could create a regular area where it has the 50 msg nets the sysop would carry, and the msg subs would be in there. then you could create a more simple area using the same data codes. you can cut and paste in scfg or you can rig something up since synchronet uses .ini files now.

you could use flags to have only one to show to a user. you could script it so it asks the user which style they prefer.

that's the easiest way to do it (for me).

i think it's weird to have msg subs out of their context, especially how fidonet and fxnet and other nets have different rules and operators.

I can't believe a user would ask for something like this. i've never seen someone ask for such a messy system. i think it's just a bad idea the sysop had and he stuck with it.

I understand having tons of msg networks, file areas, games can be a bit
much for users. that's why you either dont do it or you do little tricks to segregate them. there's a lot of visual tricks to segregate msg and file
areas with synchronet, for example.

nobody likes a facefull of data with multiple pages. so i think it's best
for for the sysops to steer away from that. but it's their systems. they
can be THAT sysop and have the 1000 msg nets and 1000 doorgames and have an inactive system.
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Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 09 2025 09:38 pm

can message areas not be grouped in more than one way? i don't recall. perhaps in a(n unpleasant) way where two areas listed in two groups use the same files?

They actually can be, by having a sub-board with the same internal code in more than one message group. This means you can't use the "internal code prefix" feature, but it is doable. Some oddity with message scan config / pointers might occur also, I don't recall.
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Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 09 2025 21:38:00

can message areas not be grouped in more than one way? i don't recall. perha > in a(n unpleasant) way where two areas listed in two groups use the same fil

That would certainly be unpleasant. ;)
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Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
By: Digital Man to fusion on Mon Nov 10 2025 09:36:39

can message areas not be grouped in more than one way? i don't recall. perhaps in a(n unpleasant) way where two areas listed in two groups use t > > same files?

They actually can be, by having a sub-board with the same internal code in m > than one message group. This means you can't use the "internal code prefix"
feature, but it is doable. Some oddity with message scan config / pointers might occur also, I don't recall.

FWIW, I did try that several years ago and it did cause something "odd" to happen. I don't remember what, but it was enough to make me stop doing so. This would have been well over 10 years ago, IIRC.
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